I am willing to enter into a discussion with him, provided that Mr Ansar Raza’s Jama`at affirms that he is representing them in that discussion and that whatever beliefs he ascribes to them are the beliefs of their Jama`at.

As he is an author of his Jama`at, and I am an author of this Jama`at, the discussion could be published on behalf of both Jama`ats.

Yes I am very fond of using Urdu and sometimes Persian proverbs. If you see my new book, Manji - Another Pawn Advanced, which I wrote in rebuttal of Irshad Manji’s book ‘The TRouble with Islam Today’, you’ll find many Urdu and Persian expressions.

What I am laughing at is it is your AAIIL friends who started this trivial argumentation by accusing our Jama’at of having so-called contradiction with Hadhrat Khalifat-ul-Masih-II (ra) about the ‘First’ and the ‘Last’ word, because you seem to spare no moment to vent your frustration against Hadhrat Khalifat-ul-Masih-II (ra).

WOH ILZAM HAM KO DETAY THAY QASUR APNA NIKAL AYA

If you choose, we can discuss big issues. I offered earlier to Mr. Zahid Aziz in my one of the earlier posts, but he simply ignored.

Since our Qadiani friend seems fond of Urdu verses, perhaps he could ponder this expression. Mirza Sahib has used it in one of his writings to describe the condition of the ulema of his time who choose to spend their time in minutia while ignoring the main issues.

1. The Qadiani Jamaat believes that in Aik Ghalti Ka Azala HMGA announced his prophethood to the world. Their Khalifa MM Ahmad Sahib says that this was his first written evidence of his prophethood.

2. The Qadiani Jamaat’s publisher states about Aik Ghalti Ka Azala:

“Apart from resolving once and for all the extremely vital and contentious issue of Khatm-e-Nubuwwat, Eik Ghalati Ka Izala is also the last word in settling the dispute between those who believe the Promised Messiah to be a Prophet of God and those who do not.”

3. My comments: One, Khatm-e-Nabuwwat was never a contentious issue between Muslims until MM Ahmad Sahib made it into one. The general belief has always been that Prophet Muhammad (saw) was the last of the prophets. The only snag was that most Muslims believed that Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was due to return a second time to earth which was a potential violation of Khatm-e-Nabuwwat. HMGA cleared this difficulty by stating that his second return was only a metaphorical return and that prophecy was fulfilled in his own person (a non-prophet but a Mujaddid).

4. Second, If Aik Ghalti Ka Azala is the “last word” according to the Qadiani publisher (meaning most authoritative) and the first word according to MM Ahmad (meaning chronologically first) about HMGA’s announcement to the world regarding his prophethood, still, the irony would not be lost on AAIIL members when they see the words “first” and “last” about the same document which they have always contested with very solid reasoning that it does not at all point towards a new belief regarding his claims.

5. I am very far off reading all of HMGA’s works (which I hope to do someday). But from whatever I have seen, HMGA ’s post Aik Ghalti Ka Azala works plus the circumstances of his life post-1901 do not support the contention that he made any changes regarding his beliefs. This is the reason why to the publishers of Aik Ghalti Ka Azala this seems the most authoritative word about a claim to prophethood on the part of HMGA.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/last+word

last word
n.
1. The final statement in a verbal argument.
2.
a. A conclusive or authoritative statement or treatment: The report was considered to be the last word on the hazards of smoking.
b. Power or authority of ultimate decision: The treasurer has the last word in all financial matters.
3. Informal The newest or most fashionable example of its kind; the latest thing: a food processor that is the last word in kitchen equipment.
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Assalam-o-Alaikum

Alhamdolillah. The matter is clear now that there is no contradiction between what Hadhrat Khalifat-ul-Masih-II (ra) said and what was written in the updated translation of the pamphelete “Aik ghalti Ka Azala”. Thx for acknowedging that fact.

As far as the question of the Promised Messiah (Peace be upon him)’s prophethood is concerned, I think this is not the forum to discuss that. This fundamental dispute is lingering on since almost a century now (You probably know very well that next year is our ‘Khilafat Centenary) but you are still adament.

However, if you wish I can submit here what I have learnt after my joining Ahmadiyya Movement in 1982, and seek your insight over my arguments.

Wassalam

Ansar Raza