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	<title>Comments on: Qadianis in Indonesia DROP belief in Hazrat Mirza as prophet</title>
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		<title>By: Naveed Khan</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2008/01/17/qadianis-in-indonesia-drop-belief-in-hazrat-mirza-as-prophet/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Naveed Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Soofi Hakim sahib, also i want to say, UQAL TO KHUD ANDHI HA GAR NAIYAR-E-ILHAM NA HO. in now day&#039;s  people have enough knowledge to understand very clearly.  if it was Man made religion! why this still exists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Soofi Hakim sahib, also i want to say, UQAL TO KHUD ANDHI HA GAR NAIYAR-E-ILHAM NA HO. in now day&#8217;s  people have enough knowledge to understand very clearly.  if it was Man made religion! why this still exists?</p>
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		<title>By: janma</title>
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		<dc:creator>janma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bashir, if you read the article from Indonesia matters ( the link that had the article about them renouncing their beliefs) at the bottom you will see three links to  three different news articles that are carrying the story.
from Antara (news)
Republika and from Detik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bashir, if you read the article from Indonesia matters ( the link that had the article about them renouncing their beliefs) at the bottom you will see three links to  three different news articles that are carrying the story.<br />
from Antara (news)<br />
Republika and from Detik.</p>
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		<title>By: Soofi Hakim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soofi Hakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry my friends. We Ahmadis will never drop this belief (that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian is a subordinate Prophet)in the light of Khataman Nubuwwat. We can never be banned and will never be banned. These are just another routine set of false allegations against us by our enemies because we have emerged victorious once again. We will Insyallah gain supremacy in all areas because this is not the work of ordinary men but is the work of Allah All-Mighty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry my friends. We Ahmadis will never drop this belief (that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian is a subordinate Prophet)in the light of Khataman Nubuwwat. We can never be banned and will never be banned. These are just another routine set of false allegations against us by our enemies because we have emerged victorious once again. We will Insyallah gain supremacy in all areas because this is not the work of ordinary men but is the work of Allah All-Mighty.</p>
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		<title>By: Erwan</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2008/01/17/qadianis-in-indonesia-drop-belief-in-hazrat-mirza-as-prophet/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator>Erwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very crusial Declaration:

There are 12 point which declared by Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia (Name of organization Qadiyani in Indonesia) but which are crusial here:

Point 2:
From Begining we Jemaat Indonesia hold believe that Muhammad Rasulullah is Khatamun-Nabiyyin (&lt;strong&gt;last prophet&lt;/strong&gt;)

Point 3:
From among of our believe, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a teacher, mursyid, Good News and warner Bearer and also Mubasysyirat bearer, Founder and Leader Jemaat Ahmadiyah for Islam&#039;s propagation and syiar which carried by Prophet Muhammad saw

point 7:
We Jemaat Ahmadiyah member never and will never regard other muslim non Ahmadi as Kafir by word or by action as well

bold font by me

nb: on meeting the day before, Goverment ask Jemaat Ahmadiyah to put Lahore believe in their statement ie, 
&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Nabi Muhammad is Khataman Nabiyyin, no prophet will come after him neither new nor old&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;. But Qadiyani refused</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very crusial Declaration:</p>
<p>There are 12 point which declared by Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia (Name of organization Qadiyani in Indonesia) but which are crusial here:</p>
<p>Point 2:<br />
From Begining we Jemaat Indonesia hold believe that Muhammad Rasulullah is Khatamun-Nabiyyin (<strong>last prophet</strong>)</p>
<p>Point 3:<br />
From among of our believe, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a teacher, mursyid, Good News and warner Bearer and also Mubasysyirat bearer, Founder and Leader Jemaat Ahmadiyah for Islam&#8217;s propagation and syiar which carried by Prophet Muhammad saw</p>
<p>point 7:<br />
We Jemaat Ahmadiyah member never and will never regard other muslim non Ahmadi as Kafir by word or by action as well</p>
<p>bold font by me</p>
<p>nb: on meeting the day before, Goverment ask Jemaat Ahmadiyah to put Lahore believe in their statement ie,<br />
<strong>&#8220;Nabi Muhammad is Khataman Nabiyyin, no prophet will come after him neither new nor old&#8221;</strong>. But Qadiyani refused</p>
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		<title>By: Bashir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bashir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aziz Sahib,  I&#039;ll take your word on this one.

I just wish there was other news outlets for this report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aziz Sahib,  I&#8217;ll take your word on this one.</p>
<p>I just wish there was other news outlets for this report.</p>
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		<title>By: aaiil</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaiil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erwan is one of our most active Lahore Ahmadiyya members in Indonesia and has confirmed this news in his comment above. Also, a very senior member from Indonesia had also mentioned it to me a couple of days ago.

Zahid Aziz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erwan is one of our most active Lahore Ahmadiyya members in Indonesia and has confirmed this news in his comment above. Also, a very senior member from Indonesia had also mentioned it to me a couple of days ago.</p>
<p>Zahid Aziz</p>
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		<title>By: Bashir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bashir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the link, i have my reservations in terms of the validity of this report.  Yes, it could be true, i am not saying te report is false.  But it could also be mis-reported.  It&#039;s not like CNN is reporting this.  

I mean,, who&#039;s website is this ????  When researching any topic, i try to have 3 or 4 references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the link, i have my reservations in terms of the validity of this report.  Yes, it could be true, i am not saying te report is false.  But it could also be mis-reported.  It&#8217;s not like CNN is reporting this.  </p>
<p>I mean,, who&#8217;s website is this ????  When researching any topic, i try to have 3 or 4 references.</p>
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		<title>By: Bashir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bashir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW.  thats my only comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW.  thats my only comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Erwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and Pakem will keep watch their believe for three month, they should open their masjid for publick, and anyone can Khutba Jum&#039;at and be Imam on Qadiyani Masjid. Alhamdulilla, they want be makmum behind non Qadiyani people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and Pakem will keep watch their believe for three month, they should open their masjid for publick, and anyone can Khutba Jum&#8217;at and be Imam on Qadiyani Masjid. Alhamdulilla, they want be makmum behind non Qadiyani people</p>
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