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January 25th, 2008

Translation of Qadiani Jamaat Indonesia statement

Our friend from Indonesia, Erwan Hamdani, has sent us a clearer English translation of the 12-point statement by the Qadiani Jama`at in Indonesia. It is as follows:

1. We, Jemaat Ahmadiyya members, since the beginning, have believed and said kalimah shahadat as taught by His Majesty Muhammad Rasulullah the Prophet (PBUH), i.e. Ashhadu anlaa-ilaaha illallahu wa ashhadu anna Muhammadar Rasullulah, meaning: I witness that there is no God besides Allah and I witness that surely Muhammad is Rasulullah.

2. Since the beginning, we, Jemaat Ahmadiyya members, have believed that Muhammad Rasulullah is Khatamun Nabiyyin (end of prophet).

3. Among our beliefs, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a teacher, murshid, bearer of good news and warnings, and bearer of mubashshirat, founder and leader of jamaat Ahmadiyat, whose mission was to strengthen dawah and propagation of Islam which was brought by Muhammad (PBUH) the Prophet.

4. To clarify that the word Rasulullah in the 10 points of bai’at that have to read by candidates of jamaat Ahmadiyya is Muhammad (PBUH) the Prophet, we put the word Muhammad in front of the word Rasulullah.

5. We, Ahmadiyya members, believe that there is no wahyu shariat after Al-Quranul Karim brought to Muhammad the Prophet. Al Quran and sunnah of Muhammad (PBUH) the Prophet is the source of Islamic teaching that we follow.

6. Book of Tadzkirah is not Ahmadiyya’s holy book, but it is a record of spiritual experiences of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad that were collected into a book that is called Tadzkirah by his followers in 1935, that was 27 after his demise.

7. We, Jemaat Ahmadiyya members, have never and will never consider other Muslims outside Ahmadiyya kafir, either by words nor by acts.

8. We, Jemaat Ahmadiyya members, have never and will never call the mosques that we built with a name called Ahmadiyya’s mosque.

9. We declare that every mosque that was built and administered by Jemaat Ahmadiyya is always open for all Muslims from all groups.

10. We, Jemaat Ahmadiyya members, as muslims register (our) marriages at the Religious Affairs Offices and register (our) divorces and other matters related to it to Religious Court Offices in accordance to the law.

11. We, Jamaat Ahmadiyya members, will keep increasing the silaturaim and cooperate with all muslim groups and the public in public social khidmad for Islamic, people and national progress.

12. With this explanation, we, the executive of Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia, expect that Jemaat Ahmadiyya members specifically, and Muslim ummah in general, can understand this matters with ukhuwah Islamiyah and national unity spirit.


Erwan has added the following comments on this:

HMGA being Mahdi or Messiah is not an essential issue here. The Goverment is only concerned about prophethood after the Holy Prophet Muhammad as Qadiani Jama`at believes, because this wrong believe can cause riots.

All of Qadiani publishing in Indonesia will be monitor by the government. This 12-point statement is regarded by Indonesian Goverment as a “massive repentance” by the Qadiani Jama`at of Indonesia.

5 Responses to “Translation of Qadiani Jamaat Indonesia statement”

  1. Erwan, this should not be a Lahori vs Qadiani issue. the sad commentary here is your country is turning into a basketcase nation with government interference in religious liberties.


  2. This is not about what you called religious liberties, it is about the unity of Muslims especially in Indonesia. Qadiyanis believe that all other Muslims are kafir and outside pale of Islam, and this belief makes the Qadiyani Jamaat an exclusive organization. All of this disunity is based on their belief that there is a prophet after Holy Prophet. If you ask the Indonesian goverment about religious liberties, please remember that it is also not religious liberty by the Qadiani Jamaat that they regard other Muslims as a kafir and outside pale of Islam.


  3. January 26th, 2008 at 1:51 am
    From Abdul Momin:

    I think to clarify this situation whether the Qadiani jamaat in Indonesia believes HMGA to be a prophet or not, a copy of the press release from London by the Qadiani jamaat should be sent to the Indonesian government, who then should in turn forward it to the concerned Qadiani jamaat leaders for their comments. I think this would make the situation very clear.


  4. Erwan, the issue is the government threatening religious liberty of its own citizens due to influence of narrow minded Mullah -ism. Please recognize the disease.

    Today it may be us, tomorrow they may come after you for not believing the literal descent of Hazrat Isa (fatwas on this already exist) and for your belief the non-Ahmadis are ‘fasiq’ for rejecting a mujaddid.


  5. The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement has always held very strongly that anyone who recites the kalima must be regarded as a Muslim by any Muslim governments or organisations. On this basis, it has specifically held that the Qadiani Jamaat is Muslim and cannot be declared as non-Muslim on the grounds of believing in Hazrat Mirza sahib as prophet. Moreover, it has also been our view that if the Qadiani Jamaat is declared non-Muslim on these grounds then the Sunni Muslims don’t remain Muslims either because of their belief in a prophet (Jesus) coming after the Holy Prophet. In fact, a pandora’s box will be opened of each Muslim sect complaining about some other as being non-Muslim.

    We are not discussing the Qadiani Jamaat statement from the point of view that they should deny their belief in the prophethood of Hazrat Mirza sahib in order to remain Muslims in someone’s eyes. They should be regarded as Muslims in any case on the basis of the first point in their statement. What we are discussing is whether the beliefs they presented in this statement are a full and accurate reflection of their beliefs on the controversial points.


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