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	<title>Comments on: Sadr Anjuman &#038; M. Nur-ud-Din</title>
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		<title>By: Bashir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bashir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tahir, you have a point.

But if you read the speech by HMBMA that was delivered in 1925, HMBMA clearly writes:

"The founding principle of the Council of Trustees (Majlis-i Mu'timidin) did not include the existence of the khalifa of the time, which is the very fundamental issue in Islam.
(&lt;em&gt;Al-Fazl,&lt;/em&gt; 3 November 1925, p. 3, col. 1.) 

1.  13 out of 14 members must have been scared and shaken at the death of HMGA.  

2.  They(and the entire jamaat) decided that Hazrat Maulvi Noorudin should be in-charge.  

3.  This went against the SPECIFIC instructions of HMGA.

In the same speech of 1925, as odd as it is, HMBMA admits one major point:

A resolution has been passed during the second khilafat to the effect that the Council must accept whatever the khalifa says. But this is not a matter of principle. What it means is that a body of members says that it would do so. However, the body which is entitled to say this, can also say that it shall not do so. For, the Anjuman which can pass the resolution that it shall obey the khalifa in everything, if ten years later it says that it shall not obey him, it is entitled to do so according to the rules of the Anjuman. Or if the Anjuman says that it will obey this khalifa in everything but will not obey another one, it has the right to do so according to its rules." (&lt;em&gt;Al-Fazl,&lt;/em&gt; 3 November 1925, p. 3, col. 1.) 

HMBMA admits to everything that m. ali had ever written about successorship in this ahmadiyya community.

Here is the link

&lt;a href="http://www.muslim.org/qadis/khil2.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.muslim.org/qadis/khil2.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tahir, you have a point.</p>
<p>But if you read the speech by HMBMA that was delivered in 1925, HMBMA clearly writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;The founding principle of the Council of Trustees (Majlis-i Mu&#8217;timidin) did not include the existence of the khalifa of the time, which is the very fundamental issue in Islam.<br />
(<em>Al-Fazl,</em> 3 November 1925, p. 3, col. 1.) </p>
<p>1.  13 out of 14 members must have been scared and shaken at the death of HMGA.  </p>
<p>2.  They(and the entire jamaat) decided that Hazrat Maulvi Noorudin should be in-charge.  </p>
<p>3.  This went against the SPECIFIC instructions of HMGA.</p>
<p>In the same speech of 1925, as odd as it is, HMBMA admits one major point:</p>
<p>A resolution has been passed during the second khilafat to the effect that the Council must accept whatever the khalifa says. But this is not a matter of principle. What it means is that a body of members says that it would do so. However, the body which is entitled to say this, can also say that it shall not do so. For, the Anjuman which can pass the resolution that it shall obey the khalifa in everything, if ten years later it says that it shall not obey him, it is entitled to do so according to the rules of the Anjuman. Or if the Anjuman says that it will obey this khalifa in everything but will not obey another one, it has the right to do so according to its rules.&#8221; (<em>Al-Fazl,</em> 3 November 1925, p. 3, col. 1.) </p>
<p>HMBMA admits to everything that m. ali had ever written about successorship in this ahmadiyya community.</p>
<p>Here is the link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.muslim.org/qadis/khil2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.muslim.org/qadis/khil2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tahir Ijaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tahir Ijaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bashir, I don't understand your statement about panic leading to choosing Maulan Nuruddin sahib as Khalifa as a precaution. Anjuman was already established in the lifetime of HMGA. It is not like people had to scramble to form a governing body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bashir, I don&#8217;t understand your statement about panic leading to choosing Maulan Nuruddin sahib as Khalifa as a precaution. Anjuman was already established in the lifetime of HMGA. It is not like people had to scramble to form a governing body.</p>
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		<title>By: Tahir Ijaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tahir Ijaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct.  He later stepped down as President but remained Khalifa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct.  He later stepped down as President but remained Khalifa.</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tariq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I am not mistaken, Maulana Nuruddin Sahib also officially held the office of the the President of Sadr Anjuman (to be more exact, the president of the 14 member body who were the trustees of the Sadar Anjuman). He was appointed to this office when the Anjuman was formed by The Promised Messiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am not mistaken, Maulana Nuruddin Sahib also officially held the office of the the President of Sadr Anjuman (to be more exact, the president of the 14 member body who were the trustees of the Sadar Anjuman). He was appointed to this office when the Anjuman was formed by The Promised Messiah.</p>
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