With all of this uncertainty, HMGA decided that HARB superseded JIZYAH, in turn this meant that the Messiah was to stop Jihad with the sword?   I think that’s a bit of a stretch!  The evidence just does not substantiate HMGA’s conclusion. 

HMGA was the first muslim ever in the history of Islam to say that the military jihad has ended.  All the mujadids were in consensus on this matter.  Batalvi and many other indian muslims  said that the conditions didnt exist in british india for the military jihad.  HMGA said the same thing but he took it a step further and totally stopped the military jihad.  HMGA is always clever enough to make 4 or 5 statements that confuse his readers. 

1.  Jihad is not a Koranic commandment.
2.  The messiah was supposed to stop jihad anyways.
3.  The military jihad was only fought when muslims were innocently being murdered.
4.  The conditions of the military jihad are not current in british india.
5.  Islam is not  a violent religion.

It is worthy of mentioning that Zaheerudin claimed that HMGA was a law-bearing prophet based on the fact that he ordered that an injunction of the Koran had ended.  Zaheerudin argued that HMGA’s prophethood was not simply metaphoric.

To say that HMGA was just clearing the prevalent misconception about Jihad is a gross understatement.  The aaiil believe that Jesus (and all other prophets) was a ‘law-bearing” based on the fact that Jesus changed some portion of the Jewish law.  Even HMGA called Jesus a Haqiqi Nabi.  I dont have the reference available. 

The proof is Chapter 3:50:

‘And I come fulfilling that which is before me, namely, the Torah; and to allow you some of that which was forbidden you; and I come to you with a Sign from your Lord; so fear Allah and obey me.

The AMI claim that Jesus was just clearing mis-conceptions.  This appears to be an argument technique.  It’s obvious that Jesus asked the jews to be peaceful instead of what Joshua and others taught them. 

The Promised Messiah stated: “There is not the least doubt that the conditions laid down for jihad are not to be met with at the present time and in this country; so it is illegal for the Muslims to fight for religion and to kill anyone who rejects the Sacred Law, for God has made clear the illegality of jihad when there is peace and security.” (Tohfa-i-Golarwiya, Supplement, p.30)

And this hadith in question,  as already shown, is to be interpreted in light of the Qur’an, and not vice versa! The first part of the hadith speaks of “breaking the cross” – that is not interpreted literally! The second part of the hadith speaks of “killing the swine” – and none takes that literally! The latter portion of hadith speaks of the suspension of jizyah/war – and again, not to be taken in the absolute literal sense, but as said, to be explained in a manner consistent with the teachings of Islam, and that is exactly what the Promised Messiah did, whether it be referring to harb or jizyah! It may very well be that the Holy Prophet referred to both terms at different times in relation to the signs of the Messiah.

I earlier quoted an extract of the Promised Messiah where he interpreted the suspension of jizyah figuratively, stating:
“Suspending the Jizya points to the fact that the levy will no longer be required. Human hearts will be swayed not so much by war or violence as by argument and persuasion.”

And true, he also explained it as the end of  harb, or an end to misconceived notion of religious wars, which was why I mentioned Maulana Muhammad Ali’s statement: “What is aimed at is really this, that a jihad contrary to the teachings of the Holy Qur’an and to the practice of the Holy Prophet, if ever there was one, was undoubtedly the result of some misconception, and, according to the hadith quoted above, the Promised Messiah will remove that misconception and thus put an end to such wars.”

The Promised Messiah laid emphasis on the primary, the great jihad as mentioned in the Qur’an, of propogating the truth of Islam by beautiful deed and action to show man the true intrinsic beauty of faith, that would truly reform man. Thus, his focus was on the beauty aspect of moral teachings as was true with the first Messiah, that would conquer hearts and minds!

You are saying that some of the people in the chain of transmitters thought that they heard HARB instead of jizyah. 

1.  How many people in the chain differed?

1.a.  Does this difference exist in the Abu Daud version?

2.  Does this substantiate the abrogation of jihad?  In other words hadith cannot be held above the Koran.  Why is this hadith being held above the Koran? 

Using the same approach with those hadith that mention Jesus fighting Dajjal, one would conclude that Dajjal would be one individual with monstrous powers. Just turn to the following hadith:

Book 041, Number 7015

in this link of the online Sahih Muslim:

“…He (Dajjal) would be a young man with twisted, contracted hair, and a blind eye. I compare him to ‘Abd-ul-’Uzza b. Qatan. ”

“how quickly would he walk upon the earth? Thereupon he said: Like cloud driven by the wind.”

“He would then give command to the sky and there would be rainfall upon the earth and it would grow crops.”

“He would then walk through the waste, land and say to it: Bring forth your treasures, and the treasures would come out and collect (themselves) before him like the swarm of bees…”

All these wonders are performed by Dajjal before the return of Jesus according to this lengthy hadith:

“He would then call a person brimming with youth and strike him with the sword and cut him into two pieces and (make these pieces lie at a distance which is generally) between the archer and his target. He would then call (that young man) and he will come forward laughing with his face gleaming (with happiness) and it would at this very time that Allah would send Christ, son of Mary, “

And how will Jesus defeat Dajjal and the unbelievers:

“Every non-believer who would smell the odour of his [i.e. Jesus'] self would die and his breath would reach as far as he would be able to see. He would then search for him (Dajjal) until he would catch hold of him at the gate of Ludd and would kill him.”

So the “easy to understand” approach would tell us that Jesus (the real one who lived 2000 years ago) will kill non-Muslims by his breath. Is this what will lead to jizyah being abolished?

The other curious thing is that in this hadith it is stated near the beginning by the Holy Prophet Muhammad:

“If he (Dajjal) comes forth while I am among on, I shall contend with him on your behalf, but if he comes forth while I am not amongst you, a man must contend on his own behalf”

“Contend” here means “arguing”. If there is to be a war to kill this Dajjal, why would the Holy Prophet argue with him, and why does he tell Muslims to do the same?

It took the Divinely-inspired genius of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to interpret all this in a believable, faith-inspiring way, consistent with the teahcings of Islam.

I think we as ahmadis should look up the chain of transmitters.  We should find out as to what people thought they heard HARB as opposed to jizyah, and vice versa.  If 10 people thought they heard jizyah, and 5 thought they heard HARB, then jizya is the correct version, harb would have to be a secondary version.   

Again, why would HMGA use an un-clear statement as his basis for stopping the miltary jihad.  Hadith that oppose the Koran need to be discarded.    

1.  Have you read Tabari, Wackidi, Ibn Hisham????

The truth is that Islam was a political movement more than a spritual movement.  Most arabs joined this movement on the hopes that they could get rich by killing people and taking their riches.  Have you heard of the Apostates that Abu Bakr had to deal with??  I assure you, I am an unbiased researcher, I dont personally care about what Islam is or isnt.  I just state facts, as best as I can, and if I am wrong, I will accept that.  Anyhow, these barbaric nomads moved into Arabia because this was on the Southern trade-route, Israel and Iraq being middle-earth, where all the commerce was.  Trade that was moving south towards africa went through medina then mecca.  

Anyhow, imagine an army camping in front of your house asking you to accept Islam and give them your young men.  FYI:  military service was mandatory for all muslim men.  So what would you do???  If you say NO, then you have to pay jizyah, the muslims would offer you adequate security.  But if you missed a payment, that was an act of war.  The muslims were to occupy your lands until you missed a payment….

If you accepted Islam, then everything was OK, but they would still occupy your land.  Occupation was an irrelevant state of affairs.  Your sons were gone, the muslims owned them.  They were to fight on the battlefield until death.  Then you had to pay the zakat, which if you missed a payment, then somebody would be sent to talk to you….I think….

The other option was DEATH.  If you told the muslims to get off your lawn, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. 

The most ironic thing is this.  Muslims never denied being savage beasts until HMGA tried to water down this impression.  Before HMGA muslims were proud of there strength and barbaric attitudes.  HMGA was forced to re-interpret Islam in the face of the Christians who were threatening to wipe out Islam by showing that it was a violent religion, instead, christianity was peaceful(which is also wrong). 

Lastly, I am forced to think that all these peaceful renditions of Islam were grown out of British India.  At a time when Islam was under attack for it’s barbaric mental state. 

All the mujadids from the 1st to the last believed that the military jihad was to last until the messiah came and killed all the non-believers, then converted the remaining inhabitants of the EARTH, then, and only then,  jizyah/harb/jihad would end. 

I compare the muslims of arabia to the modern day Afghans.  In terms of their mental state and religous ideas.  I dont think that they are fundamental….NO, they are humans who believed in Islam. 

It is very strange to assume that these hadith mean that the Messiah will issue an order which would stop the military jihad. 

I just cant understand why HMGA would use data that is not clear and concise(the jizya/harb thing) to formulate an idea that the messiah was to stop the military jihads.  I just dont get it……

Instead of all the people converting to Islam, the aaiil believe that even the family of HMGA has misconstrued his mission.  The aaiil believe that the only 1% of ahmadis are on the straight path.  It seems that messiah failed to even produce fresh fruit.   Kk saahib refers to this in his book that you are currently translating. 

Some of this particular hadith in Abu Daud is plainly opposed to the Quran. Fighting people for the cause of Islam as such is not allowed, and all religions perishing except Islam is contrary to the Quran’s statement that Jews and Christians will always continue to exist.

As to the use of harb in a hadith about the coming of Jesus, some ancient commentators of the Quran (for example, Ibn Kathir) link it with the verse of the Quran: “until the war lays down its burdens” (47:4). Although that verse has no connection with the coming of the Messiah, these commentators say that this will happen when Jesus comes again. The words “until the war lays down its burdens”  (taza`-ul-harb = war lays down) are similar to the words in hadith “he will abolish war” (yaza`-ul-harb).

The Musnad of Ahmad ibn Hanbal contains a hadith by Abu Huraira which has the words: “… he will abolish jizya (yaza`-ul-jizya) and war will lay down (taza`-ul-harb) its burdens”.

Thus early commentators regarded harb as occurring in this hadith and they found a Quranic basis for its occurrence.

THIS WAS ALSO NARRATED BY ABU HURAYRAH!!!

Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated Abu Hurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.