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December 26th, 2013

Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi Plagiarized HMGA books

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri


Munir-ud-Din, Ph.D, a former Qadiani now opponent of HMGA writes following posts on ahmedi.org forum:

I had known for quite some time that Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi had copied from the book "Asrar-e Shari'at" by my grand father Maulavi Muhammad Fazal Khan. But I was not aware of the extant of this coping as Thanvi Sahib's book "Ahkam Islam eql ki nazar main" was not available to me. Now through some good chance I could lay my hands on this celebrated book. I thought he might have copied some paragraphs or pages. But now I know that 95 per cent of his book is word by word true copy of "Asrar-e Shari'at", all three volumes. 

I had known that he had also copied from the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and sold that material as his own.

What a daring thief he was that copied 95 per cent of a book which was available in the market. But as we know things move very slowly in our part of the world. It took me almost 60 or more years to look into his robbery. I intend to write about this literary theft in the literary quarterly "Savera", Lahore.

~~Dear @4pac – Asrar-e Shari'at means Secrets or Philosophy of the (Islamic) Shari'a. It is a celebrated book with three volumes which runs into 1100 pages. 

Now a word about Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi, whom many on the Indian Sub-continent regard as the Mujaddid of the 20th century and whose book "Bihishti Zewar" (Ornament of Paradise) was customarily given to the brides as a marriage gift and which now is also available in English translation.

This man was a notorious literary thief, who even stole texts from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and from many other authors. And although this thing is quite obvious and known to many, he is called "Hakim-i Ummat".

~~Dear @4pac – You have many times asked, if you can read the books of my Grand Father in English. Now my answer is: yes you can. A certain Rafiq Abdur Rahman translated the above book, still thinking it to have been authored by Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi into English. It is also available from sellers in the West. It is called: 

 

              "The wisdom behind the commands of  Islam"

               By Muhammad Ashraf Ali Thanvi

               Translated by Rafiq Abdur Rahman

               Published by: Darul Ishaat. Karachi.

               Year of the first publication: 2004 – 424 Pages.

Now that we know that 95 percent of the text was taken from "Asrar-i Shari'at" without any change or diversion, we can assume that the said book is in fact property of my Grand Father Maulavi Muhammad Fazal Khan. You may look for it in the Internet, where it is being sold for US $ 8.25.

I don't know if I can do much in this matter. Maulavi Ashraf Ali is dead and his followers will not be ready to take responsibility for this theft. All I can do is to make some noise in the media. Perhaps the translator could be persuaded to withdraw the book or at least acknowledge that it was not authored by Maulavi Ashraf Ali Sahib.

~~Well I don't know, if I will be able to take legal action in this case, as I am living too far away in a foreign country. But I will handover this matter to the younger generation of my family. Some of them are practicing lawyers and are also living in Pakistan. I have my reservations regarding the Justice system of Pakistan. Many years ago Maulavi Allah Yar Chinyoti (I hope this is the right name) visited our village Changa Bangial and made a statement regarding passages from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani in some books of Maulavi Ashraf Al Thanvi. He said it all happend due to some mistake. In fact the original quotes were from the books of Maulavi Muhammad Fazal Khan, which were copied by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani as well as Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi. So it was not that serious crime. Both Mirza Ghlam Ahmad and Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi had committed the same crime.

But the fact of the matter is that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was already dead when my grand father started writing his book. In certain matters he quoted from the books of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad with full reference or at least with the name of "Ahmad" in brackets or in the case of Maulavi Nurruddin, the first Caliph of Mirza Sahib, whose initials were "Nur".  This was done because already in 1909 it was deadly to name Mirza Sahib or other Ahmadies in your book as reference. Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi did not know this or he did not care about such niceties. He left all references out and presented the text as his own. In this way he came to be blamed for steeling also from the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

~~At long last I have written an article with full evidance that Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanavi stole the book "Asrar-e Shari'at" of my grand father Maulavi Muhammad Fazal Khan.It is in Urdu and can be opened by clicking on the following link. 

http://munir.my-place.us/Thanavi.pdf

~~Dear @4pac – If  you would have started learning Urdu by the time you began wailing for me or some one else to translate Urdu books for you, you could have mastered the language by now. I understand that you already know the spoken language. It is only the written script which anybody can learn within weeks.

And now let us talk about Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanavi and his theft of the book of my grand father Maulavi Muhammad Fazal Khan.

7 Responses to “Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi Plagiarized HMGA books”

  1. December 29th, 2013 at 5:32 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi Plagiarized Maulana Muhammad Ali.

    Munir-ud-Din Ahmad, Ph.D article copies sample from Maulana Muhammad Ali sahib writing and from Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi writings to prove later plagiarized from former writings.

    Link to article:
    http://munir.my-place.us/Thanavi.pdf


  2. December 31st, 2013 at 11:36 pm
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Freedom of Expression in Pakistan.

    Munir-ud-Din Ahmad, Ph.D, now an opponent of HMGA writes in his latest post on ahmedi.org:

    ~~Once again I was made to understand that Pakistan in not a country, where one is free to express his or her opinion freely. The Mullah-Crecy has taken over the country in such a manner that a well-established publishing house is afraid of printing a simple article in which it is proved with citations from the book of Maulavi Ashraf Ali Thanvi that he had stolen from the book of another author. My long time Publisher in Lahore has indicated that he will not be able to publish my above article in his prestigious magazine, to which I am a regular contributor since over three decades.

    I will not give up and try to find another publishing house with more courage. 


  3. January 2nd, 2014 at 4:46 am
    From Zahid Aziz:

    It seems from this that an opponent of the Ahmadiyya Movement, particularly a former Ahmadi, is granted full freedom of speech by fellow opponents only to speak against Ahmadiyyat. But he is not allowed to criticise the other opponents and Mullahs themselves on some other issue! Yes, he has the fullest freedom if he wants to prove Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to be (God forbid) a liar, but no freedom if he wants to prove the same about some cherished ulama of theirs.

    Obviously our opponents should discuss among themselves what freedom of speech they allow to each other.

    Also I may say that since our opponents, such as writers on ahmedi.org, want to discuss and debate with us, I hope that they will oppose the official restrictions on freedom of speech that we face in Pakistan. One of them once wrote, in an exchange with me, that they want to "keep Ahmadis talking" in order to expose the falsity of their creed. I hope they send such a petition to the government of Pakistan, saying that the best way to expose Ahmadis is to "keep them talking".


  4. @Rashid Jahangiri @Zahid Aziz Was Maulavi Muhammad Fazal Khan really an Ahmadi? and was Dr. Munir-ud-Din a born Ahmadi?


  5. I don't know the answer to your questions.


  6. November 9th, 2014 at 6:20 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    This is what Dr Munir-ud-din wrote on discussion forum of ahmedi.org and in his Urdu autobiography. Beside his own writings my father in-law Prof Chaudhry Ghulam Rasool sahib and his friend Zafar Iqbal sahib (who lives in Germany, and is a former Qadiani Jamaat member and friend of Dr Munir-ud-din) has said to me. Read autobiography of Munir-ud-din: Dhaltay Sae.  Actually Munir-ud-din came to Germany as missionary of the Qadiani Jamaat.


  7. Yes Maulvi Muhammad Fazal was Ahmadi , Munir Ur Din wrote his biography which can be seen here . Maulawi Muhammad Fazal Khan Download Link


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