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March 23rd, 2016

‘Mehmudi’ Lawyer Mujeeb-ur-Rehman

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri.

Mehmudi Lawyer Mujeeb-ur-Rehman is a LIAR.

Mehmudi (Qadianis who hold belief that their Qadiani Khalifa 2 Mirza Mehmood Ahmad was a “Musleh Mahud”) talk very highly of their organization member Mujeeb-ur-Rehman, Pakistan Supreme Court lawyer. Today I came across  youtube clip. After seeing this clip, and knowing about his poor performance in  Mehmudi Jamaat cases in Pakistan Shariat Court, it is more appropriate to call him a Mehmudi Liar.

In following clip Mujeeb-ur-Rehman LIAR is giving ‘fight on khilafat’ as the reason for split in 1914 in Ahmadiyya Jamaat of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the Mujjaddid of 14th Islamic Century.

Why a small Group (Lahori Ahmadies) was separated from Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat in 1914.flv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rT6gg05ahU

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5 Responses to “‘Mehmudi’ Lawyer Mujeeb-ur-Rehman”

  1. March 24th, 2016 at 6:58 am
    From Zahid Aziz:

    See also a discussion earlier in this blog.

  2. March 26th, 2016 at 7:37 am
    From ikram:

    There are many contradictions in the comment by Mujeeb-ur-Rehman. None too glaring than when he addresses non-Ahmadis as “Muslim Brothers,” yet he would not hold funeral prayers of same brothers of his (see the link posted above by Dr. Zahid Aziz). While trying to use the argument of the same brethren, he brings to the fore the core perplexity of theirs that how could HMGA be a claimant to prophethood (–belief of Qadianis) yet be a Mujaddid at the same time (–belief of Lahori’s).

    Neither Mujeeb-ur-Rehman nor anyone from Qadianis will ever be able to refute an evidence based analysis of which of the two, Qadianis or Lahoris, are the true successors of the movement initiated by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad that Dr. Zahid Aziz wrote in the book – The True Succession. Link:http://www.ahmadiyya.org/intro/true-succession.htm.

    The introduction to this book on the website states:

    The Lahore Ahmadiyya is a direct continuation of the Ahmadiyya Movement as founded by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (d. 1908) and as led afterwards by his successor Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din (d. 1914). It seeks to preserve the beliefs, mission and goals of this Movement as set down by these two guiding lights.

    The Lahore Ahmadiyya holds that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did not claim to be a prophet.  No prophet, or absolute authority in Islam, can come after the Holy Prophet Muhammad, neither a new one nor the re-appearance of one from the past. It strongly proclaims that all those who profess the Kalima of Islam are Muslims and cannot be declared as outside the fold of Islam.

    The preface to the book is as follows:

    This book is an account of the founding, in 1914, of the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha‘at Islam at Lahore (then in India, now Pakistan), and covers the background, the events and the issues in relation to the creation, objectives and work of this organization. It aims to show that this body was created to save the mission of propagation of Islam started by the Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and to preserve his teachings and beliefs, in the face of the grave threat that arose within the Movement to undermine its true character.

    In this book, I have compiled material from existing Lahore Ahmadiyya publications, and have edited it as necessary and verified references within it by checking against the original sources. I have also added many further details by consulting the original sources directly, in particular Ahmadiyya Movement publications before and around the year 1914. Developments of much later times are also covered, particularly in chapter 7.

    This book is being published to mark the centenary of the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha‘at Islam Lahore. Time has vindicated its interpretation of the teachings of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in two ways. Firstly, today that interpretation is showing the light to the Muslim world as to how to resolve its intractable problems; but that topic is beyond the scope of this book. Secondly, the Lahore Ahmadiyya view of his claims and beliefs has triumphed over the erroneous standpoint of the group which believes him to be a prophet and treats all other Muslims as outside the fold of Islam. As we show in chapter 7, that group has been retreating from its un-Islamic doctrines of 1914 ever since.

    I am sorry to state that the practical implications of the pathetic logic of Qadianis led by QK-2 onwards is in the similitude of the Pied Piper of Hamelin who while playing the 'magic flute' (read – Mahmudi dogma) drowned the rats in the Weser River in the first wave and then took their children away and shut them from the (Muslim) world into a cavern, never to return. Wake up Qadianis!

  3. March 27th, 2016 at 5:41 am
    From Abdul Momin:

    Mr Mujeeb-ur-Rehman seems to hold the judges of the Pakistan Shariat Court and Allama Iqbal in very high esteem when it comes to their opinions about the Lahori Ahmadis. But he seems to conveniently forget that none of these people had any respect for the beliefs of the Qadianis. He is a lawyer by profession. But for misrepresenting the causes of division between the Lahoris and Qadianis, I think it is quite accurate to brand him a LIAR. I am even tempted to call him a veritable liar in line with his spiritual guide's declaration of calling all non-Ahmadi Muslims as veritable kafirs.

    If the Lahoris ever believed that HMGA's claim was that of a Prophet, but they instead chose to reject or neglect this claim of his, and only accepted him to be a Mujaddid or Saint, nothing that the Lahoris would say in defence of HMGA or their beliefs, would have any validity. But that has never been the case. Lahoris genuinely believe from their hearts that HMGA's claim through out his life was that of a Wali of God and nothing more than that. However the Shariat Court and the Pakistani constitution does not even give the Lahori Ahmadis the right to differ on this very critical issue: whether HMGA ever claimed to be a prophet or not. If one is to go by the "wisdom" of the Shariat Court, it seems that people have never had a difference in beliefs or opinions. Everything in the universe is clearly present in black and white. To all those who give any credibility to the status of Ahmadis as non-Muslims in Pakistan's constitution, I have just one thing to say: please reflect. This constitution was usurped first by one General (Zia) and then by another. According to the first General it was just a piece of paper which he could shred to bits. So if this is the state of minds of the guarantors of Pakistan's constitution, could one expect anything remotely connected to fairness from such rulers? Ahmadies were convenient scape-goats to be used as political fodder by General Zia.

    At the Shariat Court in 1984 a very significant argument was presented that at the time of the split, 70 Lahori Ahmadis signed a sworn declaration that it never ever occured to them that HMGA had changed his claim from that of a non-prophet to a prophet, especially after Aik Ghalati Ka Izala was published in 1901. But this critical argument was ignored by the Shariat Court because it was not there to dispense justice. It was only going to do what its master, Gen Zia ordered. On the AAIIL website, people can see for themselves that except for a dubious declaration by their Khalifa, the Qadianis never responded to the 70 Lahoris with a sworn declaration of their own about HMGA changing his claim. So it is quite clear that HMGA was raised to the level of a prophet posthumously by those who had a vested interest in doing so.

    If HMGA was a claimant to prophethood and yet the Lahoris only accept him as a Mujaddid. which according to Mujeeb-ur-Rehman is a fallacy, then I ask him to explain why on the cover of the booklet Lecture Lahore (1904) Roohani Khazain Vol 20, HMGA is called Mujaddid of his time when his real title was that of a Prophet? Why reduce his status again when "everyone" in the Ahmadi jamaat had somehow mysteriously understood that a change in claim and "upgrade in status" had occurred sometime around 1901?

    As to why Allama Iqbal said what he did, that is another story altogether. It has something to do with human psychology when a person is in extreme emotional pain. He suffered this emotional pain when he perceived betrayal on the part of the Qadiani Khalifa who was head of the Kashmir Committee.
     

  4. March 27th, 2016 at 6:27 am
    From Zahid Aziz:

    Thank you to our learned and analytical brother Abdul Momin.

    The following are some relevant links:

    Sworn declaration by 70 Ahmadis in 1915

    Change of claim in 1901 theory collapses under its own contradictions

    Before the Split Maulana Muhammad Ali wrote article that there was no change of claim in Ayk Ghalati Ka Izala

  5. March 27th, 2016 at 11:08 pm
    From ikram:

    The basic goal of any education system is to develop in the students the skill of reading and the faculty of comprehension (i.e. both, not reading alone). I came across the following on one of the websites – K12 Reader:

    Recognizing letters and words is an important first step in learning to read. However, it is only a first step; it is vital that students comprehend, or understand, what they are reading. They must be able to get the meaning of the text: What is the author telling the reader? This is reading comprehension, and it is an essential skill for success in school and in the real world. (link)

    Obviously, QK-2 had reading skills but, deliberately or factually, lacked the faculty of comprehension while reading ‘Ayk Ghalti Ka Azala’ by HMGA. His followers merely follow(ed) the (lack of) comprehension of QK-2. They keep beating around the bush and keep relying on QK-2’s conclusion about said pamphlet as the source of alleged claim of HMGA’s to prophethood. This lack or deliberately distorted comprehension is merely a pipe dream of Qadiani Khalifas Mirza Mahmud onwards that is incessantly injected as a piped music into the ears of their Jamaat. Their message has no broader appeal in the Muslim thought. Whereas, there is a sucking sound of the need in the Muslim world for the literature of AAIIL, which is either directly reproduced, plagiarized or inspires other works.

    Dr. Zahid Aziz has filled that dearth of comprehension for the Qadianis if they care to read it at the following link:

    Correction of an Error – English translation of ‘Ayk Ghalati Ka Izala’ by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement, With explanatory Notes and a detailed study of the subject:

    http://www.ahmadiyya.org/bookspdf/ghalati-izala.pdf