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		<title>Comment on The Divine Appointments – Pope vs. Qadiani Khalifa by Rashid Jahangiri</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/03/14/the-divine-appointments-pope-vs-qadiani-khalifa/#comment-9336</link>
		<dc:creator>Rashid Jahangiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 01:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;Wall Street Journal Article in Favor of QK5 has Come to BITE on Qadianis.&lt;/strong&gt;
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	Qadianis were so proud of the WSJ article on their QK5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad, that they emailed it to who ever they knew, without realizing why WSJ called QK3 a POPE. On top of that LAM posters wrote to expose the similarities between Papal and Qadiani Khaliafat. (i.e. Sprinkled red hot chilies on Qadianis wound). Looks like the news did spread and &quot;Proud Moment&quot; for Qadianis has come to BITE their Behinds. They are so embarrased of it that they took help of Mr. Mike Ghouse, a Dallas, Texas, USA&#160; based Muslim activist, who is trying to bring Qadianis back into Muslims fold had to write an article. Interestingly he was &quot;shocked&quot; to see there were 115,000 hits on it. Be probably does not know that Qadianis think their Qadiani Khalifa of time is AVATAR OF GOD ON EARTH. Their lives revolve around Qadiani Khalifafat. Their lives begin and end with Qadiani Khalifa.
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	&lt;strong&gt;For some reason Mr. Mike Ghouse does NOT realize head of Buddhism i.e. Dalai Lama is in&#160;some what same&#160;situation, but WSJ does NOT call him a Pope. Reason is obvious: Dalai Lama does NOT act like a Pope.&lt;/strong&gt;
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	&#160;
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	Anyways, here is artcile by Mr. Mike Ghouse:
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	Monday, May 20, 2013
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	Bias against Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad; is he a Khalifa, Pope or what?
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	&lt;a href=&quot;http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2013/05/bias-against-hazrat-mirza-masroor-ahmad.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2013/05/bias-against-hazrat-mirza-masroor-ahmad.html&lt;/a&gt;
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	&#160;
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	<strong>Wall Street Journal Article in Favor of QK5 has Come to BITE on Qadianis.</strong>
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	Qadianis were so proud of the WSJ article on their QK5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad, that they emailed it to who ever they knew, without realizing why WSJ called QK3 a POPE. On top of that LAM posters wrote to expose the similarities between Papal and Qadiani Khaliafat. (i.e. Sprinkled red hot chilies on Qadianis wound). Looks like the news did spread and &quot;Proud Moment&quot; for Qadianis has come to BITE their Behinds. They are so embarrased of it that they took help of Mr. Mike Ghouse, a Dallas, Texas, USA&nbsp; based Muslim activist, who is trying to bring Qadianis back into Muslims fold had to write an article. Interestingly he was &quot;shocked&quot; to see there were 115,000 hits on it. Be probably does not know that Qadianis think their Qadiani Khalifa of time is AVATAR OF GOD ON EARTH. Their lives revolve around Qadiani Khalifafat. Their lives begin and end with Qadiani Khalifa.
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	<strong>For some reason Mr. Mike Ghouse does NOT realize head of Buddhism i.e. Dalai Lama is in&nbsp;some what same&nbsp;situation, but WSJ does NOT call him a Pope. Reason is obvious: Dalai Lama does NOT act like a Pope.</strong>
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<p>
	Anyways, here is artcile by Mr. Mike Ghouse:
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	Monday, May 20, 2013
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	Bias against Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad; is he a Khalifa, Pope or what?
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	<a href="http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2013/05/bias-against-hazrat-mirza-masroor-ahmad.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2013/05/bias-against-hazrat-mirza-masroor-ahmad.html</a>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of Homeopathy to Establish Divine Appointment by Zahid Aziz</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/30/2434/#comment-9334</link>
		<dc:creator>Zahid Aziz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 19:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	Mr Ali wrote above: &quot;If you are seriously ill and have a choice between a professionaly trained doctor and a hakim ready to sell you roots of plants which would you choose. &quot;
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&lt;p&gt;
	I refer readers to an article on the website of the National Trust of UK, a public body which protects, among other things,&#160;gardens and forests in UK. It is entitled &#039;Taxus Baccata and the fight against cancer&#039; and can be read here:
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	&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/article-1356393745899/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/article-1356393745899/&lt;/a&gt;
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	A few extracts are as follows:
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	&quot;Members of the genus &#039;Taxus&#039; produce compounds known as taxanes, which disrupt microtubule function in our cells. ... These precious taxanes are most concentrated in the needles of the English yew between the months of May and October, when they are chemically extracted from the clippings, purified, and converted into the chemotherapy drug Taxotere&#174; (docetaxel). ... Taxotere was made available in the UK in 1996 and has proven effective in combating lung and prostate cancer, and remarkably successful in the treatment of advanced cases of breast cancer....
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	it is an important reminder that any plant could contain beneficial compounds only waiting to be discovered by scientists.
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	Our gardens can be considered a vast pharmacopeia, protecting everything from the humble herbs of our medieval ancestors to endangered rainforest species. A staggering proportion of our medicines are plant-derived, ...
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	The next time you tour one of our gardens, imagine the medical potential of the plants around you. Whether ordinary or rare, creeping or stately, showy or inconspicuous, the plant you pass on the garden path may be more significant than you could imagine.&quot;
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	Mr Ali wrote above: &quot;If you are seriously ill and have a choice between a professionaly trained doctor and a hakim ready to sell you roots of plants which would you choose. &quot;
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<p>
	I refer readers to an article on the website of the National Trust of UK, a public body which protects, among other things,&nbsp;gardens and forests in UK. It is entitled &#39;Taxus Baccata and the fight against cancer&#39; and can be read here:
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	<a href="http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/article-1356393745899/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/article-1356393745899/</a>
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<p>
	A few extracts are as follows:
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<p>
	&quot;Members of the genus &#39;Taxus&#39; produce compounds known as taxanes, which disrupt microtubule function in our cells. &#8230; These precious taxanes are most concentrated in the needles of the English yew between the months of May and October, when they are chemically extracted from the clippings, purified, and converted into the chemotherapy drug Taxotere&reg; (docetaxel). &#8230; Taxotere was made available in the UK in 1996 and has proven effective in combating lung and prostate cancer, and remarkably successful in the treatment of advanced cases of breast cancer&#8230;.
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	it is an important reminder that any plant could contain beneficial compounds only waiting to be discovered by scientists.
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	Our gardens can be considered a vast pharmacopeia, protecting everything from the humble herbs of our medieval ancestors to endangered rainforest species. A staggering proportion of our medicines are plant-derived, &#8230;
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	The next time you tour one of our gardens, imagine the medical potential of the plants around you. Whether ordinary or rare, creeping or stately, showy or inconspicuous, the plant you pass on the garden path may be more significant than you could imagine.&quot;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of Homeopathy to Establish Divine Appointment by Rashid Jahangiri</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/30/2434/#comment-9326</link>
		<dc:creator>Rashid Jahangiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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	Dear Dr. Omar Ahmad sahib,



	Hazrat Eisa AS has two views. One is that of Muslims and other is that of Christians. Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib had likeness of Hazrat Eisa AS. So he has two views one is that of&#160;Lahore Ahmadiyya Jamaat and other is that of Qadianis. Just the way after Eisa AS death Paul raised his status from Prophet to God. Similarly after HMGA death QK2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad raised his status from Reformer to Prophet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	Dear Dr. Omar Ahmad sahib,</p>
<p>	Hazrat Eisa AS has two views. One is that of Muslims and other is that of Christians. Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib had likeness of Hazrat Eisa AS. So he has two views one is that of&nbsp;Lahore Ahmadiyya Jamaat and other is that of Qadianis. Just the way after Eisa AS death Paul raised his status from Prophet to God. Similarly after HMGA death QK2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad raised his status from Reformer to Prophet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of Homeopathy to Establish Divine Appointment by Omar</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/30/2434/#comment-9325</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 05:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	I am in agreement the Rabwa&#160;Jamaat are cause of the demise of Ahmadiyyat in the world. While there are two&#160;views of Ahmadiyyat there is only one view that is acceptable to the people who will vilify our leader, Hazrat Mirza sahib.



	Omar
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	I am in agreement the Rabwa&nbsp;Jamaat are cause of the demise of Ahmadiyyat in the world. While there are two&nbsp;views of Ahmadiyyat there is only one view that is acceptable to the people who will vilify our leader, Hazrat Mirza sahib.</p>
<p>	Omar</p>
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		<title>Comment on Extinction of Jihad by Omar</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/21/extinction-of-jihad/#comment-9319</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 00:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;
	From: Omar Ahmad&lt;br /&gt;
	Date: May 19, 2013, 6:36:52 PM CDT&lt;br /&gt;
	To: &lt;letters@commercialappeal.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
	Cc: suzanen kerr &lt;columns@commercialappeal.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
	Subject: Ideology of terror groups.
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&lt;p&gt;
	This is a letter to the editor regarding Islamic law of the suicide bombers. Below that is my analysis and reply.&lt;br /&gt;
	Omar
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	The ideology of terror networks is to cause a series of attacks on a nation in order to disrupt its essential services. There in the Al Qaida ideology there is a comprehension that it is appropriate to cause a series of attacks in order to disrupt essential services by planting a device which explode below a bridge or some other methodology in an attempt to cause a malfunction in the workings in a nation in order to simulate a war like state where Muslim States are pitted against the West. We at the Islamic Center of Jackson understand a condition could develop where the daily functioning of Muslim physicians like myself would be unable to continue to practice and would have to move out of the land in a state is disarray. We also comprehend where there could be a situation where we could be relegated to second class citizens. There are groups like AFDI and others which are actively campaigning to have US citizens leave the country in order to maintain a state of equanimity with the public if and when the next terror attack takes place since it is their agenda to have Muslims like ourselves move to internment camps like the Japanese citizens were moved to in World War II. As it is easy to comprehend such a state for us we will need to be actively involved at the grass roots level as well in order to maintain a state of equanimity with the public as well. While some of these efforts are ongoing much work has to be done in order to educate the American public about the nature of our religious beliefs when we condemn such attacks such as 9-11 or the Boston bombings. In Islam we are critical of such conduct by Muslim men who come here in the guise of friends of the public while bearing an enmity to the public at large. Since there is no role for terror in our religious beliefs we should consider all such activities to be out of the realm of Islam. As there is a limit in the space allowed to me in this letter I will attempt to explain the nature of the conduct of terror groups in a future letter.&lt;br /&gt;
	Omar Ahmad M.D.&lt;br /&gt;
	Jackson Islamic Center.
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	From: Omar Ahmad<br />
	Date: May 19, 2013, 6:36:52 PM CDT<br />
	To: &lt;letters@commercialappeal.com&gt;<br />
	Cc: suzanen kerr &lt;columns@commercialappeal.com&gt;<br />
	Subject: Ideology of terror groups.
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<p>
	This is a letter to the editor regarding Islamic law of the suicide bombers. Below that is my analysis and reply.<br />
	Omar
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<p>
	The ideology of terror networks is to cause a series of attacks on a nation in order to disrupt its essential services. There in the Al Qaida ideology there is a comprehension that it is appropriate to cause a series of attacks in order to disrupt essential services by planting a device which explode below a bridge or some other methodology in an attempt to cause a malfunction in the workings in a nation in order to simulate a war like state where Muslim States are pitted against the West. We at the Islamic Center of Jackson understand a condition could develop where the daily functioning of Muslim physicians like myself would be unable to continue to practice and would have to move out of the land in a state is disarray. We also comprehend where there could be a situation where we could be relegated to second class citizens. There are groups like AFDI and others which are actively campaigning to have US citizens leave the country in order to maintain a state of equanimity with the public if and when the next terror attack takes place since it is their agenda to have Muslims like ourselves move to internment camps like the Japanese citizens were moved to in World War II. As it is easy to comprehend such a state for us we will need to be actively involved at the grass roots level as well in order to maintain a state of equanimity with the public as well. While some of these efforts are ongoing much work has to be done in order to educate the American public about the nature of our religious beliefs when we condemn such attacks such as 9-11 or the Boston bombings. In Islam we are critical of such conduct by Muslim men who come here in the guise of friends of the public while bearing an enmity to the public at large. Since there is no role for terror in our religious beliefs we should consider all such activities to be out of the realm of Islam. As there is a limit in the space allowed to me in this letter I will attempt to explain the nature of the conduct of terror groups in a future letter.<br />
	Omar Ahmad M.D.<br />
	Jackson Islamic Center.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Extinction of Jihad by Omar Ahmad</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/21/extinction-of-jihad/#comment-9315</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 15:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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	Thank you Tariq for your kind remarks and support.
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	Omar
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	Thank you Tariq for your kind remarks and support.
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	Omar</p>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of Homeopathy to Establish Divine Appointment by Rashid Jahangiri</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/30/2434/#comment-9314</link>
		<dc:creator>Rashid Jahangiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 19:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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	@Mohammed Iqbal sahib, my issue with QK3 is that, if&#160;Qadiani Khalifa 2 was&#160;&quot;pardoned&quot; then QK3 should have justified QK2 teaching. Question is why&#160;QK3&lt;strong&gt; found SAFE EXIT in condemning and denouncing the editorial and its writer? &lt;/strong&gt;



	&lt;strong&gt;When Qadianis will realize that in eyes of their Qadiani Khalifas they have NO value, and their value is&#160;NO more than a USED TOILET PAPER that is flushed down the toilet without even thinking for a second. &lt;/strong&gt;



	&lt;strong&gt;Moreover why Qadiani followers, whose value is no more than a toilet paper, proudly quote Al-Fazal newspaper????&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	@Mohammed Iqbal sahib, my issue with QK3 is that, if&nbsp;Qadiani Khalifa 2 was&nbsp;&quot;pardoned&quot; then QK3 should have justified QK2 teaching. Question is why&nbsp;QK3<strong> found SAFE EXIT in condemning and denouncing the editorial and its writer? </strong></p>
<p>	<strong>When Qadianis will realize that in eyes of their Qadiani Khalifas they have NO value, and their value is&nbsp;NO more than a USED TOILET PAPER that is flushed down the toilet without even thinking for a second. </strong></p>
<p>	<strong>Moreover why Qadiani followers, whose value is no more than a toilet paper, proudly quote Al-Fazal newspaper????</strong></p>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of Homeopathy to Establish Divine Appointment by Mohammed Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/30/2434/#comment-9309</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammed Iqbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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	Rashid jahangiri Sahib,&#160; I had seen references to &quot;Qooni Mulla ki Akhri Din&quot; in the Munir report. Munir exhonerated the Qadianis for the speech, though offensive, as it was made in retaliation and therefore pardonable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	Rashid jahangiri Sahib,&nbsp; I had seen references to &quot;Qooni Mulla ki Akhri Din&quot; in the Munir report. Munir exhonerated the Qadianis for the speech, though offensive, as it was made in retaliation and therefore pardonable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BBC Documentary on Marmaduke Pickthall by Zahid Aziz</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/05/17/bbc-documentary-on-marmaduke-pickthall/#comment-9295</link>
		<dc:creator>Zahid Aziz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 11:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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	Please see also the material about Pickthall indexed on the following link:
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	&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wokingmuslim.org/pers/pickthall/index.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.wokingmuslim.org/pers/pickthall/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	Maulana Abdul Haq Vidyarthi once told me that the AAIIL sent him to Hyderabad Deccan to talk to Pickthall about a statement he had made about the Ahmadiyya Movement. The Maulana related that Pickthall used to give the Azan and then start praying by himself because the born-Muslims of the area were so uninterested in saying prayers that they couldn&#039;t be bothered to join him!
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	Please see also the material about Pickthall indexed on the following link:
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	<a href="http://www.wokingmuslim.org/pers/pickthall/index.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wokingmuslim.org/pers/pickthall/</a>
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	Maulana Abdul Haq Vidyarthi once told me that the AAIIL sent him to Hyderabad Deccan to talk to Pickthall about a statement he had made about the Ahmadiyya Movement. The Maulana related that Pickthall used to give the Azan and then start praying by himself because the born-Muslims of the area were so uninterested in saying prayers that they couldn&#39;t be bothered to join him!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of Homeopathy to Establish Divine Appointment by Rashid Jahangiri</title>
		<link>http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2013/04/30/2434/#comment-9288</link>
		<dc:creator>Rashid Jahangiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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	@Rehan sahib,
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	I will answer points you replied after reading the references you provided. Give me some time.&#160; Thanks. In the mean time I have some food for thought for you.
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	&lt;strong&gt;FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR REHAN sahib AND OTHER QADIANI FRIENDS&lt;/strong&gt;
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	If Mullah of mosque in Rabwah (there is Khatam-e-Nabuwat, Pakistan mosque in Qadianis headquarter in Pakistan on public land) who curses Qadianis in every prayer and declares them Kafir (non-Muslim) with every breath he takes; one day he makes claim that he has led more prayers than Qadiani Khalifa 4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad, THEN WHAT QADIANIS WILL THINK OF HIS CLAIM??? ARE QADIANIS GOING TO SAY THAT MULLAH SAID SOMETHING WORTH MENTIONING AND AGREE WITH MULLAH FOR ATTANING THIS MILE STONE???
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	While typing this post a mullah, on Pakistani TV channel &#8216;Dunya&#8217; in program &#8216;Mayam-e-Soob&#8217; hosted by Aniq Ahmad quoted, a hadith of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS, according to which &#8216;one proof of person to be a &#160;liar, when he knows what he is going to say is a lie, will say a lie by putting responsibility on someone else&#8217;. In light of this hadith what you would say about QK4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad when he said, &#8220;Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih I (Radhi&#039;Allaho anho) is actually a narration of someone else who made that remark upon the presumption that he had previously seen Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih I sitting right at the back of the mosque near the shoes&#8221;.
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	Don&#8217;t you think Hazrat Maulana Noor-ud-Din sahib became Khalifa-tul-Massih as it was planned by Allah SWT, by making him do the FIRST BAIT (first pledge of allegiance) of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib, just the way, Hazrat Abu Bakr RA did the FIRST BAIT and became Khalifa-tul-Rasool??? If you don&#8217;t think it was plan of Allah SWT, then I would recommend you to read HMGA book &#8216;Sirr-ul-Khilafah&#8217; (The Secret of Caliphate). Following is this book&#8217;s English translation links: Sirr-ul-Khilafah (The Secret of Caliphate) by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian English translation by Mirza Muhammad Hussain (He was former teacher of QK2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad and his sisters):
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&#160;It was modus operandi of Qadiani Khalifas&#160; 3 and 4 that whenever they were blatantly lying they use to give reference of some unknown person e.g. QK3 and QK4 made claims that if 1974 National Assembly proceedings were made public half and whole of Pakistan would convert to Ahmadi (Qadiani version). The reason they adopted such strategy that if they get caught lying, they need not worry because it will give &#8220;defense&#8221; to their lackeys that &#8220;Hazoor only made claim based on information of &#8220;someone&#8221;&#8221;. Rehan sahib don&#8217;t you see your QK4 was using old technique when making statement about Hazrat Maulana Noor-ud-Din sahib???
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	Rehan sahib,&lt;strong&gt; you should NOT be quoting newspaper &#8216;Al-Fazal&#8217;&lt;/strong&gt; because your QK3 said in 1974 National Assembly proceedings on Qadiani issue that &lt;strong&gt;Al-Fazal is NOT newspaper of his organization&lt;/strong&gt;. Please read conversation between QK3 and Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar:
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3: Alfazal is NOT Ahmadiyya (Qadiani) Jamaat Newspaper.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;1974 NA Proceedings page 886 (pdf file page 463):&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	QK3 very painfully realized that quotes from AlFazal newspaper keep on pushing him deep into thick soup. So he decided to take a stand. Following is dialogue between QK3 and Attorney General (AG):
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3: Alfazal is NOT voice of (Qadiani) Jamaat.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;AG: If this is the case then all issues are resolved.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3: It (Alfazal) is NOT of (Qadiani) Jamaat.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;AG: Okay.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3: Then all issues are resolved.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;AG: Then it (Alfazal) is organ of which Jamaat?&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3: What?&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;AG: Alfazal is organ of which Jamaat?&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3: It is NOT organ of ANY Jamaat!&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&#160;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	Similarly QK3 has condemned editors and writers of Al-Fazal in 1974 National Assembly:
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;QK3 Escape Hatch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;1974 NA Proceedings page 810 (pdf file page 424):&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;In July 15, 1952 Al-Fazal (Qadiani Urdu newspaper) an editorial was written with title &#8216;KHUNI MULLA&#8217; (translation: Bloody Mulla). In National Assembly proceedings Attorney General as an example of what kind of FIERY, HATEFUL, PROVOCATIVE, INJURIOUS publications are produced by Qadiani Organization, produced the said editorial. QK3 realized he was against the wall, and it is time for him to take the bullet for indoctrination he and his father imparted to their followers. So, instead of taking a bullet like a brave man, he looked for escape hatch. And he found it. He found it in condemning and denouncing the editorial and its writer. QK3 only condemned the editorial in secrecy, in-camera NA proceedings. Otherwise such indoctrination of Qadianis continues on even today.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	Link to somersaults of QK3 in 1974 National Assembly:
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	December 25th, 2012
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	Comments on Mirza Nasir Ahmad&#8217;s answers at the National Assembly, 1974
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;strong&gt;NOTE:&lt;/strong&gt; Late Basharat Ahmad Baqa sahib (of LAM) wrote a comprehensive reply to QK4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad when he made comment that Hazrat Maulana Noor-ud-Din received Khilafat by sitting in shoes. That reply is not yet posted under his name on LAM official website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aaiil.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aaiil.org&lt;/a&gt;&#160; I would like to read it before reading it.
&lt;/p&gt;
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	@Rehan sahib,
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	I will answer points you replied after reading the references you provided. Give me some time.&nbsp; Thanks. In the mean time I have some food for thought for you.
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<p>
	<strong>FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR REHAN sahib AND OTHER QADIANI FRIENDS</strong>
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	If Mullah of mosque in Rabwah (there is Khatam-e-Nabuwat, Pakistan mosque in Qadianis headquarter in Pakistan on public land) who curses Qadianis in every prayer and declares them Kafir (non-Muslim) with every breath he takes; one day he makes claim that he has led more prayers than Qadiani Khalifa 4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad, THEN WHAT QADIANIS WILL THINK OF HIS CLAIM??? ARE QADIANIS GOING TO SAY THAT MULLAH SAID SOMETHING WORTH MENTIONING AND AGREE WITH MULLAH FOR ATTANING THIS MILE STONE???
</p>
<p>
	While typing this post a mullah, on Pakistani TV channel &lsquo;Dunya&rsquo; in program &lsquo;Mayam-e-Soob&rsquo; hosted by Aniq Ahmad quoted, a hadith of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS, according to which &lsquo;one proof of person to be a &nbsp;liar, when he knows what he is going to say is a lie, will say a lie by putting responsibility on someone else&rsquo;. In light of this hadith what you would say about QK4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad when he said, &ldquo;Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih I (Radhi&#39;Allaho anho) is actually a narration of someone else who made that remark upon the presumption that he had previously seen Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih I sitting right at the back of the mosque near the shoes&rdquo;.
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	Don&rsquo;t you think Hazrat Maulana Noor-ud-Din sahib became Khalifa-tul-Massih as it was planned by Allah SWT, by making him do the FIRST BAIT (first pledge of allegiance) of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib, just the way, Hazrat Abu Bakr RA did the FIRST BAIT and became Khalifa-tul-Rasool??? If you don&rsquo;t think it was plan of Allah SWT, then I would recommend you to read HMGA book &lsquo;Sirr-ul-Khilafah&rsquo; (The Secret of Caliphate). Following is this book&rsquo;s English translation links: Sirr-ul-Khilafah (The Secret of Caliphate) by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian English translation by Mirza Muhammad Hussain (He was former teacher of QK2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad and his sisters):
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<p>
	&nbsp;It was modus operandi of Qadiani Khalifas&nbsp; 3 and 4 that whenever they were blatantly lying they use to give reference of some unknown person e.g. QK3 and QK4 made claims that if 1974 National Assembly proceedings were made public half and whole of Pakistan would convert to Ahmadi (Qadiani version). The reason they adopted such strategy that if they get caught lying, they need not worry because it will give &ldquo;defense&rdquo; to their lackeys that &ldquo;Hazoor only made claim based on information of &ldquo;someone&rdquo;&rdquo;. Rehan sahib don&rsquo;t you see your QK4 was using old technique when making statement about Hazrat Maulana Noor-ud-Din sahib???
</p>
<p>
	Rehan sahib,<strong> you should NOT be quoting newspaper &lsquo;Al-Fazal&rsquo;</strong> because your QK3 said in 1974 National Assembly proceedings on Qadiani issue that <strong>Al-Fazal is NOT newspaper of his organization</strong>. Please read conversation between QK3 and Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar:
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3: Alfazal is NOT Ahmadiyya (Qadiani) Jamaat Newspaper.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>1974 NA Proceedings page 886 (pdf file page 463):</strong>
</p>
<p>
	QK3 very painfully realized that quotes from AlFazal newspaper keep on pushing him deep into thick soup. So he decided to take a stand. Following is dialogue between QK3 and Attorney General (AG):
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3: Alfazal is NOT voice of (Qadiani) Jamaat.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>AG: If this is the case then all issues are resolved.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3: It (Alfazal) is NOT of (Qadiani) Jamaat.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>AG: Okay.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3: Then all issues are resolved.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>AG: Then it (Alfazal) is organ of which Jamaat?</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3: What?</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>AG: Alfazal is organ of which Jamaat?</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3: It is NOT organ of ANY Jamaat!</strong>
</p>
<p>
	&nbsp;
</p>
<p>
	Similarly QK3 has condemned editors and writers of Al-Fazal in 1974 National Assembly:
</p>
<p>
	<strong>QK3 Escape Hatch</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>1974 NA Proceedings page 810 (pdf file page 424):</strong>
</p>
<p>
	<strong>In July 15, 1952 Al-Fazal (Qadiani Urdu newspaper) an editorial was written with title &lsquo;KHUNI MULLA&rsquo; (translation: Bloody Mulla). In National Assembly proceedings Attorney General as an example of what kind of FIERY, HATEFUL, PROVOCATIVE, INJURIOUS publications are produced by Qadiani Organization, produced the said editorial. QK3 realized he was against the wall, and it is time for him to take the bullet for indoctrination he and his father imparted to their followers. So, instead of taking a bullet like a brave man, he looked for escape hatch. And he found it. He found it in condemning and denouncing the editorial and its writer. QK3 only condemned the editorial in secrecy, in-camera NA proceedings. Otherwise such indoctrination of Qadianis continues on even today.</strong>
</p>
<p>
	Link to somersaults of QK3 in 1974 National Assembly:
</p>
<p>
	December 25th, 2012
</p>
<p>
	Comments on Mirza Nasir Ahmad&rsquo;s answers at the National Assembly, 1974
</p>
<p>
	<strong>NOTE:</strong> Late Basharat Ahmad Baqa sahib (of LAM) wrote a comprehensive reply to QK4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad when he made comment that Hazrat Maulana Noor-ud-Din received Khilafat by sitting in shoes. That reply is not yet posted under his name on LAM official website <a href="http://www.aaiil.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aaiil.org</a>&nbsp; I would like to read it before reading it.</p>
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