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June 1st, 2016

Mehmudies are Revolting and Grip of Qadiani Khalifa 5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad is Loosening

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri.

In 1974 Pakistani anti-HMGA Muslims were successful in getting 2nd amendment to Pakistan’s 1973 Constitution. Although on the surface they were successful in creating hindrance in mission of HMGA, but unknown to them their action created environment for spread and correction of its mission in minds of those who were on the wrong path. In aftermath of this amendment Lahore Ahmadiyya Movements members were forced to realize that HMGA teachings are needed outside the geographical boundaries of Pakistan. As a result more books of HMGA and literature of LAM got translated into European languages. And with the advent of internet, its computer servers and websites are placed and hosted outside Pakistan. Similarly, Mehmudies (those Qadianis who believe QK2 Mirza Mehmud Ahmad was Musleh Mahud) were forced to emigrate to Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Canada and USA. This is giving Mehmudies chance to correct their wrong beliefs and providing them space to revolt against their Qadiani Khalifas 2-5 teachings and policies. Interesting thing is that QK5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad knows this, but he is not in a position to tighten his grip. Recent Panama Leaks has further eroded whatever moral authority he had.  Here are two such examples:

I know a Qadiani Jamaat member who is physician. He is known for opening Aftar (breaking fast in Ramadan) with Muslim friends but then not offering Mughrib prayers. Three weeks ago a common Muslim friend’s son died in accident. There was Janaza (funeral prayer) in town mosque. Before Janazah there was Asar prayer. This Qadiani physician first offered Asar prayer with common Muslims behind non-Ahmadi imam, and then offered Janazah of common Muslim behind non-Ahmadi imam. Please note there were at least 300 Muslim in mosque.

Today a colleague of mine, psychiatrist by profession, his paternal aunty (cha chi) is sister of QK 4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad, told me that Qadianis are NOT reporting their true income to Qadiani authorities for purpose of compulsory and non-compulsory Chanda (financial) collections. Qadiani authorities have started demanding W-2 form (it is official form issued by employer that reports total income and federal and state taxes etc withheld). So Qadianis have refused to provide this document to Qadiani Jamaat goons who come to collect Chanda. Instead they are told to get lost and get out of their homes.

One thing is becoming clear by the day, that Qadiani Khalifas are losing their hold on his followers and followers are questioning their Khalifa policies and beliefs.

Link to W-2 form:

Links to Panama Leaks:

8 Responses to “Mehmudies are Revolting and Grip of Qadiani Khalifa 5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad is Loosening”

  1. July 6th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
    From Ebrima Bah:

    Type the following "I was shocked after what I saw inside a Lahori Mosque …"


    Listen to what the man saw in a Lahori Mosque.  TOTALLY SHOCKING AND HEARTBREAKING

  2. July 6th, 2020 at 9:29 pm
    From Zahid Aziz:

    I have seen that speech about our grand mosque in Paramaribo, Suriname, made by one of your members. It is total falsehood.

    Have you asked yourself: If Lahoris are as he describes them, how did Lahoris manage to build that grand mosque in the first place, which is the biggest mosque in that country? Have you asked: How many Qadianis are there in that country as compared with Lahoris ? Please ask the presenter, as he is a member of your Jamaat (answer: Qadianis are far fewer, which is why they are so bitterly jealous).

    I have also been to that mosque and stayed in its adjoining centre. I have given khutbas there, led prayers and made speeches in that very mosque in 2013, 2014 and 2016.

  3. July 7th, 2020 at 2:39 am
    From Omar Raja:

    In that video on Youtube (for which comments are conveniently disabled),  Imam Azhar Haneef has mentioned his visit to Suriname and his “shock” to realize he was praying in a “Lahore Ahmadi” masjid that was absent its members, aside from its caretaker. Then he should tell us at the very least the name of the caretaker and the name of the mosque. What Azhar Haneef is either ignorant of or conveniently fails to tell you, is that there more than a dozen mosques in Suriname affiliated with the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ishaat Islam Lahore (i.e., Lahore Ahmadiyya), the smallest (triangular shaped roof) of which can only accommodate up to perhaps 50 people, and the largest, the Keizerstraat Mosque which can accommodate hundreds. See
    which displays a slideshow of the mosques affiliated with the AAIIL in Suriname. Also see the “About us” page: It may be noted the Lahore Ahmadi community opens its door to all Muslims, whatever their sect. In addition to the mosques, they also run an orphanage and a school (rented out to the government).

    And then he later mentions his visit to the main Keizerstraat Mosque in Paramaribo in Suriname wanting to see the headquarters. Here’s a picture of the main mosque:

    Some other views:

    And then Azhar Haneef alleges based on what he reads on a board, that the community must only be conducting prayers in congregation on Thursday nights! (as if Jumah needs to be announced on a board).  Now, see the following link for a picture of Friday prayers being conducted at the main Keizerstraat Mosque over a decade ago in November 2008: This picture speaks for itself and reflects the size of the community.

    Aside from Jumah (Friday prayers), a host of other activities and functions are conducted at the Keizerstraat Mosque (Eids, Conventions, etc.), with members of the Lahore Ahmadiyya visiting and taking part on these functions from all over the world (US, UK, Pakistan, etc.), which can be read about in various issues of The Hope Bulletin:
    Here’s a picture taken on the occasion of an Eid-ul-Fitr in 2013:

    It’s very easy to slander a community without having any evidence to show for it, while also going off of blind assumptions. The Qadian/Rabwah Jamaat is no stranger to exaggeration, nor is it a stranger to historically holding other Muslims in contempt that are not part of their organization (as opposed to the Lahore Ahmadiyya community that has always been inclusive), which they do in the name of the so-called ‘khilafat.’ that Azhar Haneef is so keen to laud; the same ‘khilafat’ of the Rabwah/Qadian jamaat that fanned the flames of Takfir (branding other Muslims as kafir for decades!), and which originally led to the community splitting into two in 1914; the same ‘khilafat’ that exaggerated the claims of the Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement, raising his dignity and status from an inspired-saint (Mujaddid) to a Prophet!’;the same ‘khilafat,’ they exaggerated their numbers for a decade.

    In 2004, the official Jamaat website said that its membership exceeded 200 million members worldwide!  Did Azhar Haneef not believe this, without any evidence to show for it? Now interestingly, it vaguely states on its official website that “membership exceeds tens of millions,”!

    Regarding the issue of “pardah,” I may mention that in the 5 volume Rabwah/Qadian commentary purported to have been written by the 2nd Khalifa (whom caused the Split), we read: "when they go out, Muslim women are to wear an outer garment which should cover their hands and bosoms in such a manner that the garment should come from the head to the bosom covering the whole body INCLUDING THE FACE." – 5 vol. commentary, see chapter 24:31, p. 1853: Do Ahmadi women of the Qadian/Rabwah jamaat generally cover their face?

    And then you have the present ‘khalifa’ whom alienates women of the community by saying things like: "If you and your woman have the right not to do paradah, then remember that I have the same right. And that is for me to kick out such a disobedient people from the Jamaat" – Mirza Masroor Ahmad,

    But statements like this should come to no surprise. After all, the man (2nd Khalifa of Qadian/Rabwah jamaat) that caused the split in the first place in 1914, said those that do not accept the Promised Messiah as being a Nabi are now to be considered as kafirs and expelled from Islam.

    He wrote: “…all those so-called Muslims who have not entered into his bai'at formally, wherever they may be, are Kafirs and outside the pale of Islam, even though they may not have heard the name of the Promised Messiah. That these beliefs have my full concurrence, I readily admit." – The Truth about the Split, first published 1924; 3rd edition, Rabwah, Pakistan, 1965, pp. 55–56 , 2007 online edition:

    He also wrote: “It is our duty that we must not consider non-Ahmadis as Muslims, and we must not pray behind them, because we believe they are denying a prophet of Almighty God.” – Anwar-i Khilafat, 1916, p. 90; online Urdu edition:

    Since Azhar Haneef disgracefully accuses the Lahore Ahmadi community of moral corruption, (which he readily believe all based upon what his own people tell him, the same folks that at one time false believed their membership to have exceeded 200 million!), I can say no leader of the Lahore Ahmadiyya community has ever said something as shameful as the following: "To advance an objection against me even though that objection be true makes a man enter hell" (Al-Fazl, Nov. 4, 1927). This was said by the 2nd Khalifa of the Qadian/Rabwah jamaat and published in his own magazine, and in the context of when he was being accused of moral corruption by members of his own community!  Now that’s what is truly “shocking!”

    Lastly, the Rabwah/Qadian jamaat should taken heed of the Divine Warning issued by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, whom said: "I did not tell this, but after my Lord told me that my relatives will once again return to corruption and they will increase in evil deeds and adamancy… They ignored the day of the fear of God and they increased in falsehood and exaggeration. And Allah will send down his decree when He sees that they increased in their exaggeration and Allah is not such a one who gives punishment when they are the ones who fear him." – Anjam-e Atham, RK 11, p. 223, 224, published January 1897.

  4. July 7th, 2020 at 6:13 am
    From Zahid Aziz:

    See in this file the search results today from the Qadiani Jamaat website for '200 million'.

    (See link to results.)

    In my saved file above, I have marked the relevant results. As you see, there are four documents from 2003 to 2006 in which the size of their Jamaat is claimed to be 200 million. Co-incidentally, the first document was published exactly 15 years ago today, on 7 July 2005.

    The “12 million” one (“Ahmad The Guided One”) was published in 2009 and the “10 million” one (the last result) was in 2004.

    It seems the size of their Jamaat dropped to a mere 5% from 200 million to 10 million!

  5. Please see news of opening of latest Lahore Ahmadiyya mosque in Suriname at this link.

    I hope they invite Imam Azhar Haneef to visit!

  6. December 14th, 2020 at 3:25 am
    From Abdul Momin:

    Here is another example of the Qadiani Jamaat members' exaggerations or propagating hearsay:

    In 1984, just a few weeks after General Zia's infamous Ordinance XX, one of my work colleagues who worked in a different – though related – department than the one where I was working, very confidently told me that General Zia's son was about to become an Ahmadi (Qadiani). Over the course of the next few weeks he kept updating me about this claim, each time asserting that it was almost a done deal.

    At the time I was not very familiar with the Qadiani Jamaat's ways and means to spread something that they wanted people to believe. I told my late father about this claim and he responded that the Qadiani Jamaat has a habit of spreading these kind of tales and exaggerations. He was very skeptical of the authenticity of this claim. I remember him discussing this issue in the local Lahori Ahmadi Jamaat, with one Lahori member making the remark that the Qadiani jamaat was very aggressive in their propagation, while my father was very skeptical that any son of General Zia would be joining the Qadiani jamaat.

    Well, after a few weeks my Qadiani work colleague (who was a very decent person and I believe he himself was duped by what others had told him in his jamaat) became silent. No more talk about General Zia's son becoming a member of the Qadiani jamaat. I did not have the heart to question him about his claim and start a potential conflict at a place which already was full of Ahmadi haters.

  7. Zahid sahib I asked a ex-Lahori now atheist from Suriname and he said alot of ppl had drifted from the Lahore Group and many had become sunnis or atheists.

  8. Our members in Suriname are certainly very keen to have me visit them and to give them talks about Islam and Ahmadiyyat. Perhaps you can let me know this person's name and I will ask our Suriname Jamaat President.

    I was reading the January-March 2021 issue of your Jamaat's Urdu magazine Qandeel-e-Haq yesterday and two of its articles contained very dangerous material.

    The article starting on page 21 revives the very dangerous "19" theory about the Quran. Are you aware of who originally promoted that theory in the late 1970s and how that person in the USA (Rashad Khalifa) then claimed that as Surah 9 of the Quran doesn't fit the 19 mathematical pattern, it means that two verses have been left out from the end of that Surah, and he has come as the messenger of Allah to restore those two verses as found in Hadith?

    Then the article starting on p. 101 is resurrecting your Jamaat's former belief that the prophecy about the coming Ahmad in the Quran applies to Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and to no one else. This belief was withdrawn in your Jamaat’s five-volumed English commentary of the Quran by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad in the footnote 4226. In a recorded video reply on this issue by Mirza Tahir Ahmad, I heard him confirming this withdrawal.

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