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Refuting the gross distortion and misrepresentation of the Quran, the Prophet Muhammad and Islam, made by the critics of Islam

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List of all Issues | Summary 1 | Summary 2 | Summary 3‎ — completed, 28th June 2013


August 12th, 2022

Scan of reference required from ‘Badr’

From: Honest Inquirer Saleem

Salam! I need some help.

On October 9, 1910, a delegation of Ahmadi scholars went on a tour of Uttar Pradesh and this delegation was headed by Hadhrat Maulavi Syed Sarwar Shah and included people like Hadhrat Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Khawaja Kamal-ud-Din, and Maulavi Sadruddin. When the delegation arrived in Lucknow, it had a meeting with Maulana Shibli No‘amaani, who made a special reference to Maulana Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen, who, at that time, was the head of Ahmadiyya Jama‘at. Maulana Shibli No‘amaani said, “Maulavi Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen is a giant among scholars and I have a keen desire to meet him and, as a matter of fact, I had decided to leave for Qadian but the visit was put off due to an accident.” (AlBadr, October 27, 1910)

This is a very interesting statement by Shibli Nomani calling Maulana Noor ud Deen(RA) a giant among scholars. However when I showed this to a Deobandi he asked for a scan. I tried looking in the badr archives saved from aaiil.org but october 27 1910 and october 22 1910 are literally missing which is extremely strange since this website has quoted it before:

https://www.ahmadiyya.org/hmnd/nurdin-urdu.htm#1 

Here is the conversation between shibli nomani and muhammad sadiq above which is taken from al badr october 27 1910:https://www.ahmadiyya.org/qadis/sadiq.htm

Since I could not furnish proof he ended up saying that Noor-ud-Deen(RA) and other ahmadi scholars were nobodies.

Could you please attach the al badr october 27 1910 and october 22 1910 scans as a pdf or an image so it can not be lost to time. JazakAllah and I appreciate the preservation of history that is currently going on through this site.

July 8th, 2022

Eid-ul-Adha Message, July 2022, by Dr A.K. Saeed, Head of the Lahore Ahmadiyya

At this link see the Eid-ul-Adha Message, July 2022, by Dr A.K. Saeed, Head of the Lahore Ahmadiyya.

May 3rd, 2022

Eid-ul-Fitr Message, May 2022, by Dr A.K. Saeed, Head of the Lahore Ahmadiyya

At this link see the Eid-ul-Fitr Message, May 2022, by Dr A.K. Saeed, Head of the Lahore Ahmadiyya.

April 2nd, 2022

Ramadan Daily Quran Studies, 2022

Welcome to the Ramadan Daily Quran Studies for 2022

The theme for this year’s Studies is the fundamental practices of Islam. The studies start with fasting and then move on to prayer, charity, pilgrimage and jihad.

For these studies, which are added daily during Ramadan, please visit:

www.aaiil.uk/ramadan-2022

March 11th, 2022

References to poetic verses by Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Ali

An enquirer by the posting name of ‘Mujahidekabir’ has asked, regarding the following quotations in our publication The Death of Jesus (by Maulana Hafiz Sher Mohammad, translated into English by me), that the references have not been provided. These quotations are on pages 35-36 of the book available at this link.

I. The Khalifas

1. Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq, God be pleased with him, said:

Aina Musa, aina Isa, aina Yahya, aina Nuh,
Anta ya siddiq ‘as-in tub ila-l-maula al-jalil. 

“Where is Moses, where is Jesus, where is Yahya, where is Noah, [i.e., they have all died], So you, O sinner Siddiq, repent to your Glorious Lord.”

2. Hazrat Ali, God be pleased with him, said:

Al-mautu la walid-an wa la walad-an,
hadha-s-sabilu ila an la tara ahad. 

Kana-an-nabi wa lam yakhlud li-ummati-hi
lau khallad-Allahu khalq-an tablahu khalada. 

“Death spares not the father, nor the son, it is the path that leaves not anyone.

He (the Holy Prophet) was a prophet, yet he did not remain with his umma forever,

Had anyone before him lived forever, he (Holy Prophet) too would have lived forever.”


The first quotation can be seen at this link. This link gives a complete poem by Hazrat Abu Bakr. The verse we quote is the last one, and I copy and paste it below from that page:

این موسٰیؑ این عیسٰیؑ این یحیٰیؑ این نوحٍؑ
(کہاں ہیں موسیٰؑ کہاں ہیں عیسیٰؑ کہاں ہیں یحییٰؑ کہاں ہیں نوحؑ)


اَنتَ یا صدیقؓ عاصٍ تُب اِلٰی المولٰی الجلیل
(تو اے گنہگار صدیق توبہ کر بزرگ و برتر اللہ سے)

The second quotation is available at this link. Again, I copy and paste it below from that page:

المَوتُ لا وَالِداً يُبقي وَلا وَلَداً
هَذا السَبيلُ إِلى أَن لا تَرى أَحَدا


كانَ النَبِيُّ وَلَم يَخلُد لِأُمَّتِهِ
لَو خَلَّدَ اللَهُ خَلقاً قَبلَهُ خَلَدا

July 19th, 2021

Discussion about the “quranguide” blog


Please see the questions and answers below.

May 14th, 2021

Ruyat-i hilal: Well, what I said would happen in Pakistan, DID happen!

Please see my post below from 25 April 2021.

What I had said in that post, on the basis of scientific data, proved exactly correct: “This year 2021, in Pakistan on the evening of 12 May … the [Ruyat-i Hilal] Committee will find it very difficult to accept any report of sighting as correct.”

That is why it took the Committee 4½ hours to reach a decision!

The Ruyat-i Hilal Committee deliberated for about 4½ hours after sunset on 12 May 2021 (29th Ramadan there). Pakistan government’s meteorological department was announcing that the age of the moon was so short (i.e. length of time elapsed since birth of the new moon) that the crescent could not possibly be seen by the human eye or even by telescope. At 11.30 pm local time, after even tarawih prayers had finished, the Committee announced that it was accepting as correct the various reports of moon sighting it had received and hence Eid would be next day on the 13th.

The comedy is that, while the day in Islam begins at sunset, it was announced 4½ hours after this time, after the Islamic day had begun, that this day is not 30th Ramadan but 1st Shawwal!

The only justification for holding Eid on 13 May was that calculations showed that the moon was new. But not wishing to admit this simple truth, the Committee accepted erroneous reports, provably erroneous reports, that the moon had been sighted.

I may add that in the UK since 1978 the Lahore Ahmadiyya branch has been using the published scientific data about the moon to set the Eid date many months in advance. I know because I have been doing it!

So this year in Pakistan, those very strong believers in sighting the moon by eye found themselves setting an Eid day which is only justifiable by the known scientifc data and not at all by sighting.

— Zahid Aziz


Further to the above, the previous Chairman of the Ruyat-i Hilal Committee, Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman, has refused to accept that Eid should have been on 13 May since the moon could not have been sighted on 12 May and the sighting reports are erroneous. He has asked all Muslims in Pakistan to observe a missed fast on 14 May.

See: Geo TV News  ♦  The TribuneSamaa TV

April 25th, 2021

Sighting the Moon (Ruyat-i Hilal)

I saw an interview with the new chairman of the Ruyat-i Hilal Committee of Pakistan, Maulana Abdul Khabir Azad, on GEO TV. He stated that the arrangements for determining the new moon will now be such that there will not be any disagreement in the country about the date of Eid. He also disclosed that the work of this Committee costs the government 4 million Rupees (I am not sure if he meant annually or on each occasion).

I don’t know what solution the Maulana has devised, but the real problem is due to the fact that while scientific data can tell us for certain which evening it is when the moon will be new, the question of whether the new moon will be visible is not a matter of certainty, but probability.

This year 2021, in Pakistan on the evening of 12 May, which will be 29th Ramadan there, the age of the moon at sunset will be about 19 hours. It might be possible to sight it using a telescope, but sighting it with the naked eye will be almost impossible. Consequently, the Committee will find it very difficult to accept any report of sighting as correct.

So the Committee may well announce on 12 May that the moon has not been sighted. Unfortunately for them, since the age of the moon on the evening of 13 May will be about 43 hours and it will be out in the sky for about 90 minutes after sunset, people observing it will wonder how such a large and long-lasting crescent can be the new moon.

Therefore, objections will arise whichever date is selected! And the same has happened several times in previous years.

The solution is found in a very short verse of the Holy Quran: “The sun and the moon follow a reckoning (a ḥisāb)” (55:5).

Muslims happily follow the first part of this verse. Hence times of starting and ending the daily fasts are published. If it is cloudy, no one is worried about finding out when the sun will set and when they can end their fast. Unfortunately, Muslims in general are not willing to follow the second part of this verse, about the moon. On the basis of one or two hadith reports on this issue, they are setting aside and ignoring the guidance of the Quran.

It is a matter of deep embarrassment that while Muslims are found to be discussing every year whether the new moon has been sighted, non-Muslim nations (dubbed by Muslims as kafir) reached that same moon more than fifty years ago, and today they are able to send machines to the planet Mars, several hundred times further away than the moon is, and move them about by remote control.

— Zahid Aziz

April 11th, 2021

Ramadan Daily Quran Studies, 2021

Welcome to the Ramadan Daily Quran Studies for 2021

The theme for this year’s Studies is the life, work, mission and qualities of the Holy Prophet Muhammad as depicted in the Quran.

For these studies, which are added daily during Ramadan, please visit:

www.aaiil.uk/ramadan-2021

April 6th, 2021

Allegation regarding provision of prostitutes for soldiers

The anti-Ahmadiyya have alleged that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad recommended to the British government of India that British soldiers stationed in India should have prostitutes provided for them from Britain itself.

They have pointed to a passage in volume 1 of the book Mujaddid-i Azam, the biography of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad written by Dr Basharat Ahmad. This volume was published in Urdu in 1939 and its English translation was published as The Great Reformer in 2007. The passage in the published English translation is as follows:

“The British Government had allowed brothels in the military cantonments to service the needs of British soldiers. In order to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, the prostitutes were required to undergo medical examinations periodically. Later, under pressure from the puritanical elements of the British society, the compulsory medical examinations were made illegal. With the change of government in London, a movement was started to restore the medical exams and the London Times wrote several articles in its support.

When Hazrat Mirza learned of this, he published a notice in which he drew the attention of the government to the fact that it was only in Islam that fornication had been declared wrong and sinful under all circumstances. He petitioned the government to find ways to maintain the morals of its soldiers and to stop them from fornicating, but if this could not be done, then the government should import British prostitutes for the Britons. Indian women should not be used to satisfy the lasciviousness of the British soldiers.”
(v. 1, p. 572; underlining is ours. In the original Urdu book, see v. 1, p. 441)

I have underlined the words which are objected to by our critics.

1. Firstly, it appears that there is no writing by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad containing the underlined words. This suggestion of importing prostitutes was in fact made by an Indian newspaper which Hazrat Mirza has merely quoted in his book Arya Dharm. Before quoting it he has commented and emphasised that it is only Islam which prohibits every kind of fornication and provides teachings on its avoidance in all kinds of circumstances.

Therefore, we in the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement have no hesitation in acknowledging that an error has been made in Mujaddid-i Azam in attributing these words to him. Perhaps by a printing mistake some text has been omitted after the words “to stop them from fornicating”, which makes it appear as if the underlined words are being attributed to Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

2. Secondly, it may be objected that even if Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did not write these words, a close follower of his has done so and thinks it is appropriate advice. But why is this statement objectionable? It is simply saying that if you cannot refrain from this immoral practice then please do not involve our Indian community in it, but go and do it among your own people who regard it as legitimate. Just before this, this statement says:

“it was only in Islam that fornication had been declared wrong and sinful under all circumstances”

This is a practical approach which is adopted today by Muslims living in the West. When they find that certain immoral practices are being promoted by Western people, Muslims say to them: Go and indulge in these yourselves, but do not involve us or our children.

The Quran itself says that fornicating men and women should confine their relations between themselves, and keep separate from the believers (24:3). It also says: “Unclean things are for unclean ones and unclean ones are for unclean things, and good things are for good ones and good ones are for good things” (24:26). Can it be said that the Quran is approving of this immoral behaviour?

3. Thirdly, our critics would not have objected if the above underlined words of the statement had been different as follows:

“… but if this could not be done, then the government should do what many Muslim Ulama advocate to Muslims: that the women of the conquered countries be distributed among the soldiers of the conquering army for use as concubines (sex slaves).”

Why would our critics not object at all to making this recommendation? It is because most of them believe in the allowability of concubines. To show this, we quote from Maulana Maudoodi’s famous commentary of the Quran, Tafheem-ul-Quran, in his footnote 44 to verse 4:24. Maulana Maudoodi writes:

“(1) It is not lawful for a soldier to have conjugal relations with a female prisoner of war as soon as she falls into his hands. The Islamic Law requires that all such women should be handed over to the government which has the right to … … distribute them among the soldiers. A soldier can only have sexual relations with the woman who has been given to him by the govern­ment officially as his property.

(6) While the Shariah has imposed a limit of four on the number of wives (for one man), there is no limit on the number of captive women (for one man)…

(8) The official handing over of the property rights over a slave-girl to a man by the government has the same legal standing as the legal standing of Nikah. Therefore, there is no reason why a man who feels no aversion to Nikah should feel any aversion to sexual enjoyment with a slave-girl.”

Our critics should ponder whether, in accordance with their beliefs about concubines, the Muslim opponents of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad should have suggested to the British government that they adopt these so-called Islamic rules for their soldiers.

— Zahid Aziz