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October 19th, 2008

Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din’s statement in Qadiani video on Youtube

Our active friend Rashid Jahangiri has posted a comment to us regarding the appearance of the above video on Youtube which shows a quote attributed to Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din, in which opponents of the khilafat are warned and condemned. A Qadiani Jamaat official, Dr. Nasim Rehmatullah, Chairman Ahmadiyya Internet Committee, has sent an e-mail in his official capacity asking people to take heed from this.

I have uploaded pages 4 and 5 of Badr, 11th July 1912, showing a part of Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din’s speech containing that quote (which begins: Khilafat kaisari ki dokan ka soda water nahin, ending with the mention of murtadds and Khalid bin Walid):

Here is the link. (Opens a 3 MB pdf file in a new window)

The extract quoted by them is on page 4, column 3, starting from the top. Now on the same page, read column 1 starting with the sub-heading Kiya koee khilafat kay kaam main rok hai?, and continue to end of column 2. The Hazrat Maulana declares:

“Even now I have in my hand a note in which someone has written that the Jamaat of Lahore is a hindrance in the khilafat. I say to the objectors: This is evil thinking. Leave it. First make yourselves sincere like them. The Lahore people are sincere. They love Hazrat Mirza sahib.”

In the next para, he loudly and forcefully warns those critics who objected that the Lahore Jamaat are a hindrance in the Maulana’s khilafat. He says at the end of this para:

“You are thinking ill of sincere people. You are hurting me. Fear God. I am praying for you. Don’t deprive yourself of those prayers”.

Regarding this “evil thinking” (bad zanni), he says in the same place on page 4 in column 2:

“The Holy Prophet has called one who indulges in bad zanni as a great liar. … Allah has called it a sin.”

On page 5, column 1, from line 5, he says:

“If you say that the people of Lahore are a hindrance to the khilafat, this is evil thinking (bad zanni) against my sincere friends. Give it up.”

Then read page 5, column 2, middle of the column:

“Give up the belief that Lahoris are a hindrance to the khilafat. If you do not, God will treat you like Musailama”.

As you can see, all through he has defended Lahoris. The Qadianis should be challenged to publish the part of the speech before and after the section they have quoted.

The persons who are condemned by Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din are those who were spreading false insinuations against the Lahore members (who later founded the AAIIL). These people were the supporters of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad and canvassing for the khilafat to remain in his family. They have been indulging in this bad zanni, condemned and denounced by Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din, ever since that time till today.

5 Responses to “Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din’s statement in Qadiani video on Youtube”

  1. I think it is quite obvious that HMN(noorudin) was on the side of the future members of the aaiil.  I am actually upset that HMBMA did not show me this point of view in his book AS(aenes sadaqat).

    I think HMBMA had the responsiblity to show this point of view.  I think all honest writers have this responsibility.  HMBMA loses alot of credibility by not showing the point of view of HMN.  M. ali was honest in and forthwith in his books.  This jumped out and caught my attention. 

    Maulvi Sarwar Shah also wrote a book, but this book is not available.  See Kashf Iktalaf.

    I think HMBMA was interested in defaming the character of KK and M. ali.  He accomplished just that. 

    I think that HMBMA should have written a sequel to M. ali’s sequel. 


  2. October 21st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
    From Abdul Momin:

    Isn’t this laughable? The Qadiani Jamaat shares one thing in common with the anti-Ahmadiyyas and the anti-Islam evangelists. They all quote out of context to create facts that do not exist. They cannot at all be taken seriously. Is this all you have? Deception and scare tactics?


  3. What is amazing is that the “tens of millions” of members of the Qaadiani Jammat are so easily duped.  Reminds of the saying that you can fool some of the pp all of the time and all of the ppl some of the time, but not all the ppl all of the time.


  4. When I first started reading about the split I thought that my jamaat(q) was totally in the right.  I assumed that my jamaat had done all the research required to prove that the aaiil was in the wrong. 

    After lengthy research I was emotionally effected by the perplexity of the situation.  I was shocked to find out the my jamaat willingly withheld information.  I mean, this really really hurt me….

    I want my jamaat to write a book about the Khilafat of Noorudin and explain all apects of the situation.  Even if there are things that appear to conflict with the story of HMBMA in AS, it shouldnt matter.  We should publish the truth. 

    Truth should prevail, contrary to what QMN wrote, if I had the time I would definetley do it. 

    I still find it hard to believe that a religion(ahmadiyyat) that was built on truth, somehow found its way into corruption.


  5. “I still find it hard to believe that a religion(ahmadiyyat) that was built on truth, somehow found its way into corruption.”

    Perhaps this was to happen to complete the likeness of Hazrat Mirza Sahib to Jesus Christ.  The majority of both of these great persons’ followers have elevated them to positions beyond those allowed by the laws of Allah.  Allah knows best.


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