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March 14th, 2013

The Divine Appointments – Pope vs. Qadiani Khalifa

Submitted by Ikram.

With the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI there was a natural discussion in the Christian world about the next Pope (now since elected). Time magazine wrote in the matter – Does the Holy Spirit Choose the Pope?

Not to be left behind, the Qadianis jumped into the same foray about their own ‘Divine Khalifa’ for the mere fact that either a Christian or a Qadiani can be Divinely appointed, but not both. So, Qasim Rashid wrote on Huffington Post under – God's Man on Earth, which is essentially a self-selected and self-fulfilling statement about Qadiani dogmas.

In all fairness, the Christians at least have a standardized process to elect their Pope (see link). Can Qadianis match it, while keeping in mind that it is they who elect and not God who appoints? When was the last time a Prophet or a Mujaddid was elected? Whereas, it is the 'first' for a Divinely election for a Divine appointed by the Qadianis.

Following is the post I submitted in two parts to God's Man on Earth, which apparently has not shown up on the website yet.

The author writes – “In the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community (AMC), during the election of the Second Khalifa, a party chose to reject Khilafat. Those Muslims have since denied themselves of this Divine blessing. Those Muslims who chose to maintain spiritual allegiance to Khilafat, however, have benefited from its continued growth and guidance. "

The author probably is privy to some Divine Communication to make the above statement; else these are simply empty words of a crony to please the ‘Khalifa’ of the time. Can he qualify the benefit and loss of one party over another?

In another place the author states: “Likewise, a man of God is different than God's man on earth. A man of God is a voluntary position or status — such as the imam of a mosque. God's man on Earth, however, is an appointed position and therefore a required obligation for the one appointed.”

Of course this is the distinction for the offices of the likes of Abraham, Moses, Muhammad from those of Pharoahs and Nimrods of the time to which God testifies in His scriptures of the time by identifying the prophets by name e.g. in Torah, Evengel, Quran.

Based upon which Divine Scripture does the author make the claim – “His Holiness Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the world's only Khalifa and head of the worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, continues his lifelong Divinely appointed tenure to the office of Khilafat.”?

Can the author reproduce the statements of their Khalifas where they make the claim that that they have been Divinely appointed? The Prophets spent their lifetime to prove their Divine appointments and their success in their own lifetime is not short of a “miracle”. Can these Khalifas of AMC match those standards of Divine appointments?

There is a book out there "Man of God" about the fourth Khalifa that is widely circulated in AMC. Is the fourth Khalifa –  The Man i.e. the imam of a mosque?

A curious question to the author – since Khalifas 2,3,4,5 are all blood relations, how are they different than the ‘holy lineage’ like the “Pirs” of India who run empires in the garb of Divine spirituality?

Using the word Divine does not capture or attribute the Divine-ship. The Divine-ship is in actions and accomplishments? What Divine accomplishments have been achieved by the Khalifas 2,3,4,5 that could not have been done by any other mortal?

14 Responses to “The Divine Appointments – Pope vs. Qadiani Khalifa”

  1. The Qadianis have to decide for themselves as to which lens they will choose to decipher and project their beliefs. An onlooker is confused by the glaring contradictions and distortions within the claims to fame of their chain of QKs 2-5. To confuse the matters further, the zealots and apologists of their blogs give their own spins to the published and to the spoken words of their Khalifas. For every newer generation the corresponding Khalifa presents newer dogmas better suited to ‘choice of a new generation’, the marketing slogan of Pepsi.

    The only escape for QK2 and QK3 when confronted on public forums of Munir-Kiani Commission and National Assembly is to adopt the beliefs close to Lahoris. Thus, for these Khalifas there is one set of rules for general Muslims of the outside world that look in, and another set of rules for Qadianis who look outward to rest of Muslim world. Every subsequent Khalifa in order to survive a day of public scrutiny is forced to either create a new dogma or reject one of his predecessors or invent entirely new words e.g "Ummat Nabi" along with its dictionary with its own meaning to their polemics e.g. definition of Kafir = Sinner. These Khalifas claim and disclaim the works and efforts of their own Jamaat only so that they may wiggle out of their own contradictions, e.g authorship of translation/commentary of Quran and their flagship newspaper Al-Fazl. The Qadiani Khalifas 2-5 are especially adept at attributing non-sense to the previously dead generation, beacuse the dead are a fair game.

    On one side, the QK4 declares that there cannot be advent of a Mujaddid as Khalifat persists till the end of times, while on the other hand most per-capita Mujaddids claimants arose out of Qadianis in the history of mankind. Obviously there is more disorder than order in Qadiani logic. Survival of such mass confusion purely depends on emotional thinking of a mass hysteria and coattail fellowship. Their proofs are based upon circular reasoning which is only dizzying to a neutral observer. Only they can understand their claim of dogma of ‘son-ship’ of Musleh Maud while they deny it to 3 others of their own Jamaat. How different are they from the math of Christianity where 3=1.

     Isn’t it strange that the vociferous opponents of Qadianis are former Qadianis themselves? Qadiani claim of a ‘global’ Jamaat is anything but global. Isn’t it funny that their Khalifas 2-5 are not only of same blood, but thorough bred Punjabis who wear Punjabi coats (Sherwanis) and head gears (Qulla) and eat biryani, the regional choices? To an outside world signature of a pope is the cape and gown, so is the cap, cape and gown of a 'global' Khalifa. History is a testament to that fact that ‘Pope-ship’ is European, now for some ‘odd reason’ diversified into Hispanics who too speaks German. So is the Qadiani Khilafat that is Punjabi, even worse, it belongs to a family clan that manipulates the electorate with classical Punjabi intrigues.

    For Qadianis money speaks louder than their bait. Will a Qadiani remain a true Qadiani without monetarily contributing for an audience before its Khalifa? These Khalifas even deny Quranic injunctions in their Jamaat beliefs. Can a Qadiani girl marry a non-Qadiani as a state policy?

    The Chinese proverb holds true – the fish rots from its head first, but with a caveat, i.e. if it has a ‘head’ to begin with.

  2. March 14th, 2013 at 11:12 am
    From Zahid Aziz:

    In God's Man on Earth the author writes:

    "To put it directly, in Islam a Khalifa is God's man on earth. He accepts God's will and marches on despite illness, suffering, persecution or any other form of hardship. God's man on Earth does not resign. Instead, only God Himself removes them when the Khalifa eventually passes away."

    So what happens if a khalifa becomes permanently mentally incapable of carrying out his leadership functions, in fact, even carrying out normal human functions, and lingers in that state for several years before his death? Can we say that God Himself removed him from khilafat several years before his death?

  3. "These Khalifas even deny Quranic injunctions in their Jamaat beliefs. Can a Qadiani girl marry a non-Qadiani as a state policy? "

    My understanding of this restriction is that it's a Qadiani Jammat policy, not a religious law. For example a Shia family may discourage marriage to Sunnis.

  4. March 14th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
    From Zahid Aziz:

    Mirza Mahmud Ahmad's views about the Papal system and its comparison with Islam (in his opinion) can be read in his 1956 speech entitled Khilafat-i Haqqa Islamia at this link.

    See page 2, top lines: “though Pope and the Papal system has become corrupt, we must not let this make us think why is a resemblance being given with them [in khilafat verse of the Quran]”

    Also on page 2: “Look at the Christians. Even if their khilafat is false, they have continued it for 1900 years. But the misfortune of the Muslims is that the khilafat of the Promised Messiah has only existed for 48 years and many cats are dreaming of the meat they can feed on, and are planning to destroy the khilafat.”

    Page 5 (within 1st para): “I have constituted a committee to consider the Christian way of election … Their way is very simple. A small group from among their leading learned men elects the Pope, and the rest of the Christian world accepts it.”

    The khalifa is said to be appointed by Allah, and yet a committee is constituted to devise a method of election because, as he states in this speech, the existing method (also set up by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad a few years earlier) is not suitable any more! Man tells God how to appoint the khalifa!

  5. March 15th, 2013 at 7:08 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Allah SWT punishment to QK2 for making speech on December 27, 1956 I hope Qadianis also remember that after his (QK2) speech on annual gathering of Qadianis on December 27, 1956 in which he talked nasty about children of Maulana Noor ud Din (especially Abdul Manan Omar sahib and Abdul Wahab Omar sahib), Professor Chaudhry Ghulam Rasool sahib, Abdul Hameed Dadda sahib, Maulana Muhammad Ali sahib, Khawaja Kamal ud Din sahib, Maulana Sadar ud Din sahib, Shaikh Abdur Rehman Misri sahib, ALLAH SWT PUNISHED QADIANI 2 MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD SO MUCH THAT HE COULD NOT TALK AND NEVER GAVE ANY OTHER SPEECH, ESPECIALLY ON ANNUAL GATHERING AND SPENT MANY YEARS OF HIS LIFE PARALYZED, EXPERIENCED PSYCHOSIS ON HIS DEATH BED UNTIL HE DIED IN 1965. Allah SWT took away QK2 power of speech after his speech in which he lied, and accused innocent men.

  6. I quoted above – These Khalifas even deny Quranic injunctions in their Jamaat beliefs. Can a Qadiani girl marry a non-Qadiani as a state policy?

    Umar commented –  My understanding of this restriction is that it's a Qadiani Jammat policy, not a religious law. For example a Shia family may discourage marriage to Sunnis.

    I also stated before – The Qadianis have to decide for themselves as to which lens they will choose to decipher and project their beliefs. An onlooker is confused by the glaring contradictions and distortions within the claims to fame of their chain of QKs 2-5. To confuse the matters further, the zealots and apologists of their blogs give their own spins to the published and to the spoken words of their Khalifas. For every newer generation the corresponding Khalifa presents newer dogmas better suited to ‘choice of a new generation’, the marketing slogan of Pepsi.

    This case proves my contention i.e. an onlooker is bound to be confused by the circular reasoning of Qadianis. The premise in their thinking is that God appoints the Khalifa (which He does not). This then naturally creates a corollary i.e. whatever Khalifa states or declares is then essentially a Divine instruction. Since the Divine instruction cannot be wrong, then God’s own appointee cannot be wrong. Suddenly, the Khalifa starts to override the Divine sources i.e. the Quran, the Prophet Muhammmad (PBUH) and the Mujaddid of our times i.e. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib.

    For a Qadiani, their Khalifa is now included in Divine sources and is the first one to create contradiction with the other 3 Divine sources. For all practical purposes, the Qadianis follow the policy (as a defacto Law) of not allowing their girls to marry outside their Jamaat which directly conflicts with the Quran as outlined below. Since their policy is in conflict with Divine Policy, it is then bound to create rift in the society and cannot be conducive to Qadiani interests in the long run.

    I quoted this example of marriage of Qadiani girl from a firsthand knowledge where the girl side was interested in the boy, but on the condition that ‘Hazoor’ i.e. Khalifa’s allows it. Of course, the Hazoor allowed it because the girl’s father was a regular big contributor of funds. No surprises here as money can open many doors, bend the Law, and convince the minds. But to an onlooker, it was an indication of vice like grip of the Hazoor on the lives of his followers. With these feelings, the boy, who was a serious and responsible independent professional, naturally recanted. The Qadianis lost an opportunity to be accepted by others, which when multiplied by thousands (if not ‘millions’ by QK4s counting) other similar missed opportunities only adds to their isolation.

    Unlike the conceited interests of Qadiani Khalifas, in pursuit of universal brotherhood, Qur’ân gives some guidelines:

    5:5. This day all good and pure things have been made lawful for you. And the food of those who have been given the Scripture is lawful for you (provided the food does not include anything forbidden in Islam), and your food is lawful for them. And (lawful for you for marriage are) the chaste women from among the believing women and chaste women from among those who have been given the Scripture before you, provided that you pay them their dowers (to live with them) after contracting valid marriage, not committing fornication, nor seeking secret love affairs by taking secret paramours. And whoever denies the commandments of (the true) faith, no doubt (he will find) his deeds have gone in vain and he will be of the losers in the Hereafter. [Nooruddin]

    With the above verse in mind, readers have to ask themselves as to what possibly could create more firm bonds of love between individuals and communities than enjoyment of consuming the varieties of food, sharing of food and love of marital relationships. As a corollary to above, there is no prohibition in Qur’ân for Muslim women to marry non-Muslims.

    Similar to verse 5:51 above, the following verse is contextual to the idolater Makkans who were enemies, aggressors and had declared a state of war against the Muslims of Medina:

    2:221. And marry not an idolatress until she believes; while a believing maid is certainly better than an idolatress even though she may highly please you. And do not give (believing women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a (free) idolater even though he may highly please you. It is they who invite to the Fire, but Allâh calls to the Paradise and to the protection by His command. He makes His Messages clear for the people so that they may take heed. [Nooruddin]

    The contextual state of war is clearly alluded to in preceding verses 2:216-218, and the orphans of war in 2:220. There is no bar in Qur’ân for Muslim women to marry non-Muslims.

    By not allowing their girls to marry outside their Jamaat, the Qadianis are essentially by implication declaring the general body of Muslims outside the pale of Islam which is reflected in the above verse i.e. 2:221. …And do not give (believing women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe. To the onlooker, by their this policy then the confusion arises as to who is a Muslim, i.e. Qadianis or non-Qadianis, but not both.

    By not allowing such Lawful marriages, especially to the Muslims who have been given the Scripture, Qadiani Khalifas are probably ignorant of –  5:5…. And whoever denies the commandments of (the true) faith, no doubt (he will find) his deeds have gone in vain and he will be of the losers in the Hereafter.

    In conclusion, the Quran, Sunnah and the Mujaddid are complementary lenses of reason that connect the Divine Mind to human mind, just like when one sits in front of an Optometrist who places a series of lenses in front of the eyes till the vision is 20/20. But when the lens of a Khalifa is inserted, it only creates astigmatism, an angular distortion which blurs out the previous 3 lenses. To complicate the matters further, there is a whole series of astigmatic lenses of QK2,3,4,5. Because of this continuous chain of Khalifas, each one distorting the previous one, no wonder, every subsequent generation of Qadianis is farther removed from the Divine Sources of logic and reason which is visible in their pitiable isolation, both within Islam and outside Islam. Take for example the speech of QK5’s speech that was commented upon Dr. Zahid Aziz (see the pdf article and my comment) which further proves the distortions of a Khalifa and for Qadianis who not only have lost the hind sight but are missing on the foresight.

    The earlier quoted Chinese proverb can be axiomatically restated that 20/20 vision can be achieved only for those who have eyes to begin with. Many verses of Quran could be stated, but the following suffice:

    2:6. As for those who are bent upon denying (the truth), they would not believe, because it is all the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them.


    2:7. (With the result that) Allâh has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and on their eyes is a covering. And a mighty punishment awaits them. [Nooruddin]

    It would be a separate discussion as to whether Qadianis are already in grips of the punishment awaits them  with every successive Khalifa, because a Divine appointee has to succeed in the Divine mission in his own life, else the Divine Mind can be questioned to begin with.

  7. My comments above (link) about marriage were based upon what Quran taught us and thus the distorted doctrine of Qadiani Khalifas prohibiting marriage of the girls outside their Jamaat stands rejected. I personally had no idea as to what were the views of the Mujaddid HMGA sahib on the matter. Not for a moment it crossed my mind that Mujaddid could go against Quran and I was so right.

    Maulana Muhammad Ali in his book HERESEY IN ISLAM OR REFUTATION OF DECLARING A MUSLIM AN UNBELIEVER addresses headon the issue of marriage outside the Jamaat under the Chapter XII ‘Matrimonial Relations’ (p. 90-4). On page 94 he sums up the issue of the Qadiani Jamaat’s prohibitions of marriage of their girls outside their Jamaat. Of note is that just like my observation, Muhammad Ali sahib too takes notice that Qadiani Khalifa is flexible in his approval if the financial status of his followers is higher:

    "Anyway, the Promised Messiah has not prohibited inter-marriages with Muslims in general. He practised what he preached. Both his precept and practice shed light on the lawfulness of such wedlocks. We do find an announcement in the Founder's writings suggesting marriages among Ahmadis but there is no distinction between boys and girls. The aim and object of the suggestion referred to above was mainly the strengthening of fraternity and brotherhood among his followers and not because it was unlawful from the Shariah point of view to marry outside the Jama'at as viewed by Mian Mahmud Ahmad. As shown above, he gave permission to the marriage of Mian Mahmud Ahmad's sister-in-law (daughter of his prominent follower) to a non-Ahmadi. The nikah ceremony was solemnised by Maulana Nur-ud-Din in the Mubarak Mosque at Qadian.
    The fact remains that Mian Mahmud Ahmad is displeased when his indigent followers arrange marriages of their children to non-Ahmadi families but when his wealthy followers give their daughters in marriage to non-Ahmadis there is neither hue nor cry. For example, Mian Shams-ud-Din, a hide merchant of Lahore, Khan Bahadur Sheikh Muhammad Hussain, Judge and Malik Ghulam Muhammad of Lahore married their daughters to non-Ahmadis, but none of them was expelled from the Community. This shows that either Mian Mahmud Ahmad himself is not sincere in this matter or that for him wealth and eminence atone for certain sins."

  8. Ikram:

    According to your viewpoint there is no restriction on Qadiani women marrying Christian or Jewish men. Yet I do not hear you raising a hue and cry on this matter. This issue may be of more concern now that many Qadianis have migrated to the west.

  9. Dear Umar:

    Why should a Muslim (Qadiani or a non-Qadiani) raise ‘hue and cry’ about a matter which is plainly clear and in congruence with the moral guidelines of Quran. Let’s revisit the verses quoted before:

    In the light of v 5:5
    It is permitted for a believing man to marry a believing woman;
    It is permitted for a believing man to marry a woman of the Book;
    — provided the aforementioned women are ‘Chaste’, which can be determined by any secular enquiry.
    Note 1: By implication the same rules apply to a believing woman marrying a believing man or a man of the Book.
    Note 2: It is not a burden on a Muslim to determine whether a person of the Book is following his Book. The simple criterion is that of Chastity of the people of the Book.

    In the light of v 2:221
    It is prohibited for a believing man to marry an idolatress;
    It is prohibited for a believing woman to marry an idolater;
    — provided the idolaters are those who have waged war on Islam as a religion, see the context in v. 2:216-218 and 2:220.

    With the above specific situations out of the way, nowhere Quran disallows a marriage of believers with the people without a Book, provided they are ‘Chaste’ that includes atheists as well.

    Similar logic is found in Quran with regards to food for its hygiene and ‘halal’ meats, while the forbidden types are clearly enumerated. There are many animal species that can be considered ‘halal’ while they have not been mentioned in Quran for the mere fact alone that they were unknown in Arabia at the time of the Prophet. Besides, Quran is not a book of Zoology, but of principles with pertinent examples and exceptions fully elucidated.

    The above guidelines of Quran with regards to marriage are in congruence with – This day all good and pure things have been made lawful for you – 5:5.

    Now, coming to the concerns of Qadiani Jamaat as to whether they should allow their girls to marry outside the Jamaat or for that matter even with Jews and Christians in the West?  They may choose to do whatever they wish, but their wish might not necessarily be in congruence with Quran. But, if they equate their wish as teaching of Quran while it is not then Quran is very clear when it states in the same verse 5:5… And whoever denies the commandments of (the true) faith, no doubt (he will find) his deeds have gone in vain and he will be of the losers in the Hereafter.

  10. May 14th, 2013 at 4:33 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Wall Street Journal Calls Qadiani Khalifa 5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad 'POPE".

    I received email by Qadiani Rind Malik with attachment of WSJ May 13, 2013. It has photos of QK5 and calls him 'Muslim Pope'.

    I wonder if author of article used word POPE for QK5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad after reading this blog by Ikram.

  11. May 14th, 2013 at 5:13 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Catholic Pope = Muslim Pope

    Ikram in another post wrote:

    "To add to this mythology is the process of canonization, where the humans of this world are able to determine the status of the people in the next world, as to whether they are saints or just ordinary mortals and if someone is in heaven or hell (see this link), while keeping in mind that the same popes had previously sold land in the heavens to its parishioners (indulgences)."


    I see similarities between Catholic Popes and Qadiani Popes i.e. Qadiani Khalifa 2 to 5:

    1-Catholic Popes canonized their followers. Qadiani Pope QK 2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad in speech on funeral of Aziz Ahmad, who murdered Fakhar-ud-Din Multani, said, "I forgive your sin and you will go to paradise".

    2-Catholic Popes sold paradise land in this world to Christians in exchange of money. Qadiani Popes QK2 to 5 have been selling paradise land to their followers under the title deed of "Bahashti Muqbara".

    3-Now even Wall Street Journal (May 13, 2013) has called QK5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad as POPE.

    I wonder if Qadianis need proofs to convince themselves that their organization is founded and following Catholic Vatican Fraud???

  12. May 16th, 2013 at 5:33 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Elections of Catholic Pope and Qadiani Pope

    Wall Street Journal in its May 13, 2013 issue called Qadiani Khalifa 5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad a ‘Muslim Pope’. Author was wrong. Just as Pope in Vatican is NOT called ‘Christian Pope’, but called ‘Catholic Pope’, as he is not pope of all Christians of the world. Similarly, QK5 living in London does NOT deserve to be called ‘Muslim Pope’ as he is not pope of all Muslims of the world. So he should be called ‘Qadiani Pope’.

    Million dollar question is why author of WSJ article called QK5 a ‘Pope’??

    It is very much possible that WSJ author has studied Qadiani Organization and found similarities between Catholic Pope and Qadiani Pope. Here are couples of examples:

    1-Catholic Pope is elected by Papal Conclave (College of Cardinals). Qadiani Pope is elected by Majlis Intikhab Khilafat (Electoral College).

    2-Cardinal Electors are locked in seclusion cum clave (Latin for "with a key") and not permitted to leave until a new Bishop of Rome had been elected. Qadiani Electors are locked in seclusion and not permitted to leave until a new Qadiani Khalifa Family member had been elected.

    3-Catholic Pope is made for life. Qadiani Pope is made for life. In this regard I would say Catholic Popes have edge over Qadiani Popes. Catholic Popes resigned from their offices if their mental health was not sound. Where as Qadiani Pope do not resign even if they had gone insane. QK2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad was bedridden on his death bed for last few years of his life. So much so that he had no voluntary control on his urination and defecation, and he was not talking sense. And on his behalf his son, who later became Qadiani Khalifa 3, acted as Qadiani Pope of Qadianis.

  13. May 21st, 2013 at 1:27 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Wall Street Journal Article in Favor of QK5 has Come to BITE on Qadianis.

    Qadianis were so proud of the WSJ article on their QK5 Mirza Masroor Ahmad, that they emailed it to who ever they knew, without realizing why WSJ called QK3 a POPE. On top of that LAM posters wrote to expose the similarities between Papal and Qadiani Khaliafat. (i.e. Sprinkled red hot chilies on Qadianis wound). Looks like the news did spread and "Proud Moment" for Qadianis has come to BITE their Behinds. They are so embarrased of it that they took help of Mr. Mike Ghouse, a Dallas, Texas, USA  based Muslim activist, who is trying to bring Qadianis back into Muslims fold had to write an article. Interestingly he was "shocked" to see there were 115,000 hits on it. Be probably does not know that Qadianis think their Qadiani Khalifa of time is AVATAR OF GOD ON EARTH. Their lives revolve around Qadiani Khalifafat. Their lives begin and end with Qadiani Khalifa.

    For some reason Mr. Mike Ghouse does NOT realize head of Buddhism i.e. Dalai Lama is in some what same situation, but WSJ does NOT call him a Pope. Reason is obvious: Dalai Lama does NOT act like a Pope.


    Anyways, here is artcile by Mr. Mike Ghouse:

    Monday, May 20, 2013

    Bias against Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad; is he a Khalifa, Pope or what?


  14. August 29th, 2013 at 3:49 am
    From Rashid Jahangiri:

    Catholic Church Traits Found in Qadiani Missions

    Not only Qadiani Khalifa election and Qadiani Organization have traits of Vatican and Catholic Church, their Qadiani Missionaries also share the traits of Catholic Priests.

    Ahmadiya Mission in Sierra Leone Is Accused of Child Abuse and Pedophilia Allegedly Committed in the Mid-1960s