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July 8th, 2010

Lord Headley’s views about Qadiani Dogma.

Submitted by Ikram.


Lord Headley’s views about Qadiani Dogma.

In all the beautiful religions of the world there are the evidences of that strong desire of the created to return to and be at one with the Creator, and a compassionate regard for the welfare and happiness of other is a characteristic feature of the Buddhist, Christian and Islamic Faiths, and the last named, being the simplest and most free from dogmatic encumbrances, is most likely to be the universal religion of the world. There is, as far as one can see, no class in Islam which bids for temporal power. The grandeur of the religion is uninfluenced by any such sordid considerations. Every true Muslim looks to a reward which is as far above mere mundane advantages and riches as the light of the sun is above that of the ignis fatuus. I do not myself think that Islam has anything to fear from outside attacks, or even from the unworthy misrepresentations of which I have so frequently complained, for these will fade away as the Truth becomes evident. What may cause obstruction and delay is the attempt to establish fresh sects within the great fraternity of Islam. It has always been my great delight to point to the Muslim Faith as being so free from sectarian trouble which honeycombs modern Christianity. The Sunnis and the Shiahs and the Wahabis have all very decided views and may almost be looked upon as “sects,” and in very recent years the Ahmadis Qadianis followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad proclaim the advent of their leader, whom they regard as the “promised Messiah.” These latest reformers insist that all those who refuse to acknowledge Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the Messiah shall be “deprived of the light of faith” and, further, that the rejection of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad “means the rejection of the Holy Prophet Muhammad himself.” It strikes a blow at the solidarity of Islam which is greatly to be deplored. One cannot find fault with the Ahmadis (Qadianis) for thinking anything they like (it is a free country), but one may reasonably object to being excluded from the ranks of the Faithful at the behest of a small number of zealous adherents of a certain idea.

I do not propose to go into the question of the Messiahship of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but I may be permitted to point out that the high handed line now being followed by the Ahmadis (Qadianis) is hardly in accord with the true spirit of Islam, which, places toleration very high amongst the virtues to be encouraged.

As must be admitted by any fair-minded person, the innovation is entirely from the Ahmadis [Qadianis – comment added] who can hardly complain because questions are asked concerning the new rules. According to these rules I am led to understand that all Muslims who fail to recognize the claims of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are to be placed outside the pale, and can no longer be regarded as true Muslims.

I look upon this as a very serious matter, for it seems like an attempt to bind the consciences of the whole Muslim world to the views of one particular sect; indeed, it reminds one of a slogan used elsewhere: “No salvation outside the Church.”

As I have said elsewhere, the Ahmadi [Qadiani – comment added] declaration appears to my simple and, I hope, unbiased mind to be far too dictatorial. It must be evident even to the most cursory observer that such ex-cathedra declarations must prove distasteful to a large proportion of the great Muslim community. Not very long ago I informed my friend the Imam of the Southfield Mosque that I could not subscribe to the views he promulgated because they savoured too much of the intolerance we complain of in another Faith [i.e. Christianity – comment added], and might almost be inspired by the spirit of the Athanasian Creed which most of us unite in condemning.

[The Strength of Islam – by Khwaja Kamaluddin/Lord Headley, pg 21-24]

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ignis fatuus” = a light that sometimes appears in the night over marshy ground and is often attributable to the combustion of gas from decomposed organic matter [Merriam Webster]

ex-cathedra” = by virtue of or in the exercise of one’s office or position [Merriam Webster]

July 3rd, 2010

Killings in Data Darbar, Lahore

It is deeply distressing news that there has been a bombing attack at the Data Darbar shrine in Lahore, killings dozens of innocent people. See news here.

LAM members condemn this attack, as they condemn all such attacks, and as they condemned the attacks against Qadiani mosques in Lahore in May. All those killed are entirely innocent.

We must also say that the causes must be tackled, the main one being the glorification of such violence by religious leaders who present it as jihad and claim preposterously that those who perpetrate it are received by Allah into heaven as a reward.

I hope I am not offending anyone by calling for “introspection” and self-searching by all Muslims of Pakistan, as to whether they have allowed such religious leaders to prosper by not challenging them, by turning a blind eye to them, or, worse, believing that they are true spokesmen for Islam.

I personally suggest that the bereaved and injured of the attacks against the Qadiani mosques and the bereaved and injured of the Data Darbar attacks meet each other and hold a joint meeting to express condolences to each other. I suggest that at that meeting each party prays for the forgiveness of the souls of the dead of the other party. Of course each party will have already prayed for the dead of their own party, so now is the time to extend their prayers to the deceased of the other side. They need only raise their hands in prayer. In any case, they can share feelings and experiences, and find common ground.

July 3rd, 2010

Al-Fazal Archives and Qadianis Escape Hatch

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri.


Al-Fazal Archives:

Qadianis are making their Urdu Language organ Al-Fazal available online on their official website alislam.org. They are going backwards. So far until January 2003 issues are made available. I really appreciate Qadianis, this effort. I request Qadianis to please make ALL the issues of AlFazal available on line. All the way to the first issue of this major newspaper. I will also request them to make available Badar and Al-Hakam issues at least until 1914, when the the Ahmadiyya Jamaat of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib split.

I look forward to Al-Fazal archives as it has ALWAYS published every Friday sermon of Qadiani Jamaat Khalifa 2,3,4, and now 5. In addition to it Al-Fazal has also published Khalifas annual speeches on occasion of annual jalsa (conference). In life of Khalifa 4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad sahib it even published Q&A sessions with Khalifa 4. Some of his Friday sermons, annual jalas speeches, and Q&A sessions have pearl of wisdom and gems. I have references to them, I just want to read the whole speeches and also want to share them with my Qadiani friends, so that they can also appreciate those gems and pearls.

1- I’m looking forward to those Friday sermons, annual jalsa speeches and Q&A sessions of Khalifa 4 Mirza Tahir Ahmad, in which he announced prophecies that EVERY YEAR number of converts to his jamaat will DOUBLE till the time whole world has accepted message of his jamaat.

2- I’m also looking forward to Khalifa 4 Friday sermons, annual jalsa speeches and Q&A sessions, in which he announced millions of conversions. The last figures announced by his holiness, as I remember and as it use to be posted on Qadianis official website was 80 Millions in India alone and 200 Millions in the world altogether. Unfortunately, later on some Qadiani did DISSERVICE to Khalifa 4 and changed it to only TENS OF MILLIONS. Now some wretched one has absolutely removed the figures announced by his holiness Khalifa 4. I don’t know if it is some sort of conspiracy to make Khalifa 4 not look good in presence of Khalifa 5. Now it is so sad to read emails and hear from my Qadiani friends when they tell only half the number of their jamaat population compared to what his holiness Khalifa 4 announced few months before he left this earthy life. I don’t know why they do this to Khalifa 4. I would like to show them the Al-Fazal quotes to prove that their world population is double than what they think.

3- I would also like to read the complete text of Friday sermons of his holiness Khalifa 2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad published in Al-Fazal. Especially those sermons which were quoted in murder trail of Fakhar-ud-Din Multani. The English Judge of Lahore High Court quoted many those sermons of his holiness Khalifa 2, in his decision.

4- There was a “personality” in Lahore who visited his holiness Khalifa 2 in Qadian. It was reported in Zamindar Newspaper, published from Lahore under the editorship of Maulana Zafar Ali Khan who also composed a poem in honor of that famous personality of Lahore visit to Qadian and especially as guest of his holiness Khalifa 2. His holiness Khalifa 2 acknowledged visit of that personality, duration of stay and purpose of visit, in a Friday sermons to his jamaat members, who were too nosey and wanted to know about the visit of a special guest especially after reading about it in Zamindar newspaper. I have the reference to that Friday sermon. I am curious to read the whole sermons and receive the blessing that come with reading the holy words uttered by his holiness Khalifa 2. I would also like to share it with my Qadiani Jamaat friends who disagree with me about the holy explanation given by Khalifa 2.

I pray all Al-Fazal archives become available online soon. Given the financial strength, geniuses of computer gurus and manpower in Qadiani Jamaat the whole process should be complete before the end of current year. InshAllah. Ameen.
Link to Al-Fazal archives:
http://www.alfazl.org/

Qadianis Escape Hatch:

I do NOT understand why Qadianis incharge of achieving online Al-Fazal issues have WRITTEN DISCLAIMER IN YELLOW HIGH LIGHTER MARK: ‘khutba juma ka yeh matan idara al-fazal apni zimadari per shahya kar ra ha hey’ (Text of Friday Sermon is published by Al-Fazal office on its own responsibility). I don’t know if the Al-Fazal office is scared of transcribing words of Khalifas. It was NOT the case before. Actually Qadiani jamaat has very proudly collected and published the general and casual conversation of HMGA published in 2nd, 3rd person persons or just a hearsay by newspapers like Al-Hakim. The disjoint newspapers quotes they have collectively published, according to Qadianis, have “STOPPED” Qadianis from praying behind a non-Qadiani imams. And Qadianis very proudly follow any such instruction. So, it is mind boggling to see Al-Fazal’s such attitude. May be there is a conspiracy. May be there is some hidden hand. May be by such techniques the hidden hand can later on, may be few years, few decades or few centuries down the road can convince that such and such statement of his holiness Khalifa 2,3,4,5…was not in actuality as it is believed by Qadianis in future. For example some one can say 20 years from today that his holiness khalifa 4 did not announce 200 million conversions, rather he announced only 2 million, or 200 thousand or 20 thousand or only 200!! You never know there are always people who want to defame the great accomplishments of those who have passed and are no longer there to speak for themselves. Just the it is so sad that today’s Qadianis fail to appreciate his holiness khalifa 2 purpose to invite a “special” guest from Lahore to Qadian. My fear is may be in future Qadianis refuse to accept the 200 million conversions announced by Khalifa 4.
Please check the unfortunate Qadianis Escape Hatch:
http://www.alfazl.org/london/20030103.pdf

June 28th, 2010

Article equates Qadianis with Baha’is

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri.


Fulfillment of a prediction of Maulana Muhammad Ali sahib.

Going through Raza Rumi blog, on PTH, I came across on an interesting comment by him:

“One of the biggest verdicts Montazeri passed was to call for the acceptance and recognition of the Baha’i (an offshoot similar to that of the Ahmedi faith which is seen as heretical by most mainstream Muslims) as Iranian citizens deserving of equal rights and responsibilities:”

He has equated “Ahmadi [Qadiani-ahmadis] Faith” in Pakistan to Baha’i faith in Iran.

Maulana Muhammad Ali sahib (of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement) had warned Qadiani Jamaat Khalifa 2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad (QK-2) from making changes in claims of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib (HMGA), and demanding from his followers to accept the changed belief regarding status of HMGA, (at time of split in Ahmadiyya Movement in 1914 and afterwards). Maulana Muhammad Ali sahib had warned QK-2 that with your attitude you people will end up like Baha’is in Iran. And today that time has come when even secular, and Sufi journalist/ and columnist like Raza Rumi has started equating Qadianis to Baha’is.
Indeed today is a sad day!

See link here.

June 27th, 2010

Will LAM allow other muslims to use any of their mosques?

Islamic Knight sent me the above question (the first in a list), but first I must tell readers how it arose.

Islamic “Einstein” made a dazzling discovery from one of the biographies of our elders in the HOPE Bulletin, and e-mailed me that a brother of Maulana Muhammad Ali did not want to pray behind non-Ahmadis and that: “he even went to court and won a case which allowed him to read his prayers separately in a mosque.”

Please see the March 2009 issue of HOPE, p. 6, under heading “Issue of Masjid”.

To any normal person, what the above account conveys is that there was an abandoned, disused mosque in an area of a certain town. In 1907 or so, Ahmadis, led by Maulvi Aziz Bakhsh (Maulana Muhammad Ali’s brother), repaired it and started using it for prayers and other functions. Seeing this, the opponents brought their own maulvi to the mosque, and started disrupting the Ahmadi use of the mosque. This led to altercations between the two sides, and the district magistrate called both sides to his court. He asked each side if they objected to the other’s use of the mosque for prayer. Maulvi Aziz Bakhsh replied that Ahmadis had no objection. But the Sunnis replied that Ahmadis could not be allowed in as the mosque belonged to the Hanafis. The magistrate recognised that the Sunni side was the trouble-maker, and allowed Ahmadis to continue using the mosque.

Islamic Knight keeps on repeating the falsehood that Ahmadis “went to court”, as if they sued in court. They were called to court, like the Sunnis. It was not at all, as he represents, that Ahmadis were allowed by the Sunnis to pray behind them, but they went to court asking for the right of a separate service. The Sunnis wanted Ahmadis expelled. The Ahmadis told the magistrate that they didn’t want the Sunnis expelled, and that if they wish to pray separately they can do so.

Islamic Knight says that never mind that the mosque was derelict and disused. Because it was built by Sunnis, it belonged to them and they had the right to bar Ahmadis from it. This is why he has asked me the question: “Would the LAM allow other muslims to use any of their mosques and hold separate prayer services?”

Before giving further explanation, let me say that the answer is YES.

If praying is their objective, and not expelling us from our mosque, then they are most welcome. Note that our opponent Muslims don’t even consider that our mosques can be called mosques, and there is a law in Pakistan that Ahmadis can’t call their “places of worship” as mosques. So why would they want to come? But if any of them did wish to come and pray, then we would take that as a sign that they regard our mosques as mosques, and certainly by implication they regard us as Muslims.

Their reason for praying in our mosques could be that they regard them as providing an atmosphere more conducive to salaat than their own mosques!

By coming to pray in our mosques, they would at least see that we pray in the same way as they do. They would have to accept that the direction that our prayer area is facing is the correct direction.

We would say to them: why hold separate services? Hold one combined service with one of you as imam, and hold the next combined service with one of us as imam.

When the Woking Mosque in England was under the management of imams of the LAM (1913 to mid 1960s), Muslims of all sects came to the mosque, and quite frequently on big occasions someone from another sect (including Shiahs) would lead the whole congregation. Conversely, many famous figures in the Muslim world prayed behind LAM imams at the Woking Mosque.

Since the Woking Mosque has been under Barelvi control in the past 40 years, any LAM member would be expelled from even being present in the mosque.

June 26th, 2010

LAM articles on our critics blog

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri.


Qadianis Declare Other Muslims as Kafir
In Anti Ahmadiies on June 21, 2010 at 5:58 am

During Goggling I found following piece from not any other place but from Lahori Ahmadiya Group website.

See link.

June 26th, 2010

Hadith about kufr of calling a Muslim kafir

I quote below in full a post from Islamic Knight (may be it’s from Bashir, the style is exactly the same) on the reference he has been asking me for.

Quote.

I spent an entire day searching for the reference point in terms of a statment by MGAQ. MGAQ stated over and over again that here was a hadith in which the HP (saw) said that if a muslim calls another muslim (who is really a good muslim) a Kafir, then the KUFR reverts to the reciter.

Muhammad Ali didnt reference this in his book “A refutation of calling a believer a Kafir”.

Muhammad Ali gives an entire page of references that are similiar, but he never found the reference that MGAq referred to.

here is where ALI refers to the statements:

http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mali/heresyislam/heresyislam.pdf

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Zahid Aziz, you appear to have purposely not answered my question because you knew that the reference in question was bogus. It just doesnt exist. That appears to be the reason why you didnt answer. Did i beat the best scholar from the LAM? And that was on accident…i actually really had never looked into this reference and statement by MGAQ.

FYI: Its a figure of speech. If a muslim steals he committed KUFR, it doesnt actually mean that he was a kafir for that time period. Its just a figure of speech. And i figured that out al on my own.

unquote.

If I can’t answer this question, why have I published his e-mail!

Just read his last paragraph and laugh at his claim. Earlier he was ridiculing us for talking about “first type of kafir” and “seocnd type of kafir”, and now he has figured it out “on my own”. And it’s his own discovery, even though he read it in the above cited book by Maulana Muhammad Ali.

Mr Islamic Knight, Hazrat Mirza sahib asked his opponents to go to their Ulama and ask them if they deny holding the belief that kufr reflects back on a Muslim who calls another as kafir. The reference isn’t given by Hazrat Mirza sahib, or by Maulana Muhammad Ali in this particular book, because it is so widely accepted by Muslim ulama.

Therefore please read the article by Maulana Maudoodi at this link.

June 23rd, 2010

Can members of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement perform Hajj?

An opponent of the Ahmadiyya Movement has been e-mailing me using the name “Islamic Knight”, and attacking the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement. Some of his allegations are downright lies, because he studies our websites and refers to them, so he knows the true position.

He has told me now in an e-mail:

“LAM people can never perform HAJJ. All the imams of arabia call u people KUFR.”

In response I have offered to make a sworn statement that I personally know several prominent members of the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement who have performed Hajj, including a head of the LAM, and three well-known missionaries of the LAM. Apart from these, there are many others whom I don’t know personally.

Those I knew personally include: Dr Saeed Ahmad Khan sahib (1947 and 1950), Maulana Abdul Haq Vidyarthi (1962), Mumtaz Ahmad Faruqui, Shaikh Muhammad Tufail (1966), Mrs Razia Madad Ali (1970), Mr Abdur Rahim Jaggoe (see below), many of our members in Holland, and our members in USA.

(One of our members in Holland gave me an Urdu translation of the Quran that he received there as a gift given by the Saudi government to pilgrims.)

Those I didn’t know personally would form a long list, starting with Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din (1914 and 1923), Khwaja Nazir Ahmad, and Maulana Sadr-ud-Din. Maulana Muhammad Ali had booked his passage for Hajj but fell ill and had to cancel.

From Holland and Suriname in particular large numbers of LAM members go to perform Hajj. In the biography of our international, roving missionary, the late Mr Jaggoe (d. 2007) of Suriname and Holland, it is written:

“… he organised large groups to perform Hajj in Saudi Arabia for consecutive five years. During these trips he also took the groups to India and Pakistan. Impressed by his commendable service to his community in leading Hajj groups to Saudi Arabia, whereby more and more people became interested in the performance of Hajj, KLM arranged a chartered flight to Saudi Arabia and requested Maulana Jaggoe to lead this special Hajj flight. Afterwards he led several Umrahs [visting Makkah] groups to Makkah. In total he performed 2 Umrahs and seven Hajjs.” (See this link.)

Is this “Islamic Knight” prepared to make a sworn statement, under his real name and identity, to the effect that my statement above is false?

June 21st, 2010

Front page of ‘Mashriq’ (8th) September 1974

At this link you can view a pdf file of the front page coverage in the Pakistani Urdu newspaper Mashriq on the day after Ahmadis were declared non-Muslim on 7 September 1974. I remember such front pages from that time.

(Acknowledgements to a Qadiani Jamaat member who has circulated this.)

The small print is faily readable on magnification.

Listen to Bhutto’s statement in the Assembly:

“Amidst the echo of fervent applause by members of the Assembly, the Prime Minister said: Islam is our faith. As far as the People’s Party is concerned, it considers Islam as above all else.”

and then only two lines later he said:

“The People’s Party has pledged to adopt the economic principles of Socialism.”

The same party which “considers Islam as above all”!

The news states that the National Assembly, and also the Senate, passed this resolution unanimously. Is there any other example from any country of the world where a measure was passed unanimously? Even tyrants and dictators claim to win in their countries by, say 95%, but never 100%.

June 19th, 2010

Another Express TV program on Qadianis and Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib

Submitted by Rashid Jahangiri.


Express News TV, Program: Point Blank, Host: Mubashir Lucman
Guests: Ulema from Majlis Tahafuz-e-Khatma-e-Nabuwat; Jamaat-e-Ulema-e-islam (Noorant group); Jamaat Ahle-Hadith.
Date: June 16, 2010
Host email address:
pb@expressnews.pk
lucman@wol.net.pk

Click on link to watch the program
If link does not work check it on www.awaztv.tv

After watching the TV program I sent following email to Mubashir Lucman sahib:

Dear brother Mubashir Lucman sahib:
Aslam Alikum,

Today I watched your TV show Point Blank aired on June 16, 2010 on the subject of Qadiani beliefs. I think it’s a great idea to hold public debate in your program, as you have put it very aptly “to do unlimited number of shows on this subject”.

I am member of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement (aka Lahori-Ahmadis or Lahori-group). I am sure you must be aware that there are two factions of Ahmadis. In 1914 Ahmadiyya Jammat split and its members that moved to Lahore are called Lahori-Ahmadis, and those who remained in Qadian, India are called Qadiani-Ahmadis. Later Qadiani-Ahmadis moved to Rabwah (now Chenab Nagar), Pakistan. And since mid 1980s their Khalifa is residing in London. I don’t know if you‘re aware about the differences between these two factions. Anyways, there are very fundamental differences between the two factions.
Briefly, Lahori-Ahmadis hold beliefs:
1-All reciters of Kalima-Shahada are Muslims.
2- Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) is the LAST prophet/ messenger of Allah (SWT).
No new or old prophet can come after him.
3- Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib of Qadian was only a Mujaddid (reformer) of 14th Islamic Hijra century.
4- It is NOT must to believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib for a Muslim.
5- Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement is only an organization for propagation of rational, tolerant, peaceful, inspiring, non-sectarian message of Islam. Mostly focused on taking its mission of service to Islam to Christian countries of Europe and Americas.
6- If some Muslim brother/ sister wants to join our organization they are expected to volunteer their time, energies and finances as much as they can afford comfortably for propagation of Islam.
7- Every Muslim and non-Muslim is welcome to read, benefit and propagate message of Islam published by Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement (LAM) literature. LAM literature is available online and in print. There websites:
www.aaiil.org
www.ahmadiyya.org
8- Like Pakistani Islamic scholar Javed Ahmad Ghamdi and other Islamic Scholars in countries outside Pakistan, Lahori-Ahmadis hold belief that Hazrat Isa AS (Jesus) has died and will NOT return to this earth in physical form.

Mubashir Lucman sahib you’re this effort will go a long way in service of Islam and Pakistan. I can start answering to accusations made by your guests; actually they are as old as Ahmadiyya Movement started by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani sahib. They have been answered zillion times by LAM and available on their websites referred above. Instead I want to request you and bring some information to your knowledge:

1- It will be highly appreciated if in one of your TV program you can mention about LAM and their beliefs, as given above.

2- If you can raise issue on your TV program that Government of Pakistan should officially make public 1974 National Assembly sessions proceedings (including the first TWO days when LAM representative testified) that passed 2nd amendment to 1973 constitution declaring both groups i.e. Lahori-Ahmadis and Qadiani-Ahmadis as non-Muslim (Kafir). After all it has been more than 35 years, and under Pakistani law confidential documents can be made public after 25 years. Record of 2nd amendment does not contain any national security issue. Especially when it has been many years since Hamud-ur-Rehman inquiry commission report on fall of Dacca has been made public. And that report dealt with national security issues.

3- It might be information for you that in early to mid 1980s there was a court case between LAM and Muslim Ulema in South Africa. Muslim Ulema were supported by all the prominent ulema from Pakistan and other countries. This case was tried in an impartial court and an impartial judge gave the decision. The decision was in favour of LAM. Interestingly Muslim Ulema from Pakistan decided not to defend their case saying that, “a non-Muslim court can not decide a case of Muslim”. They forgot Pakistan also had famous non-Muslim Supreme Court judges from Justice Alvin Robert Cornelius to as recent as Justice Rana Bhagwandas. Anyways, the South African court case was published in Pakistani Law book: Pakistan Supreme Court Cases, March, 1986, Vol V, Part 3
(Chief Editor: Malik Muhammad Qayyum, Advocate Supreme Court)
The judgment said:

(a) Ahmadis (Lahori)
— Held: Ahmadis are Muslims. (Para 67, 68, 83)
(b) Ahmadis
— Mirza Ghulam Ahmad – Founder of Ahmadis sect of Muslim —
Held:Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was “Wali” or “Mujadid” and not the prophet.
(Para 27)
(c ) Ahmadis (Lahori)
— Muslim Mosque – Admittance of –Entitlement of – Ahmadis (Lahori)
— Held: Ahmadis (Lahori) are entitled to admittance to Muslim mosque held under dead of transfer dated 11-2-1881 (Para 83)
(d) Ahmadis (Lahori)
— Muslim cemetery –Burial – Right of –Ahmadi (Lahori)
— Held: Ahmadi (Lahori) has right of burial in Muslim cemetery as another Muslims have. (Para 83)
(e) Ahmadis (Lahori)
— Muslims – Right of propagation against Ahmadis – Muslims restrained from disseminating, Publishing or otherwise Propagating false, harmful malicious and defamatory matter of and concerning members of the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ashati Islam Lahore South Africa to wit, that such members are non-Muslims disbelievers “Kafir, apostates, murtads” that they are non-believers. (Para 83)
(f) Ahmadis
— Founder of Ahmadi Sect – Claims of – Stated:-
(i) He denied receiving wahy nubuwwat (prophethood) and affirmed receiving wahy wilayat (sainthood).
(ii) He denied the use of Prophet (nabi) in its technical sense and affirmed the use of this term in its literal sense.
(iii) He denied that the term muhaddas could be applied to him in its literal sense and affirmed that he was a muhaddas in the technical sense.
(iv) He denied being an actual or real prophet and affirmed being a metaphorical prophet.

The SCANNED PAGES of Pakistan Supreme Court cases are available on Lahori-Ahmadis websites. See the link:
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/sa-case/intro.htm (Scroll to bottom of the link).

To read it in text form please visit:
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/sa-case/judg.htm

It is very unfortunate that Lahori-Ahmadis are bundled together with Qadiani-Ahmadis. And Pakistani masses, politicians and Ulema wrongly think since Lahori-Ahmadis also hold belief that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was a truthful person, so they “must” hold the same belief as Qadiani-Ahmadis.