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May 28th, 2010

Qadiani Jamaat mosques attacked in Lahore, many killed. Explosions heard by worshippers in our Darus Salaam.

Today, Friday 28th May, gunmen attacked Qadiani Jamaat mosques in
Model Town and Garhi Shahu in Lahore. See:

http://www.jang.com.pk/

Our own Jamaat members in Darus Salaam for Jumua prayers heard the explosions from Model Town. The gathering had to be sent home. Our members are safe but extremely worried.

Please pray that all remain safe.

See also:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10181380.stm


Message from General-Secretary of AAIIL in Lahore

Dear brothers and sisters
Assalamu Alaikum

We would like to inform you that yesterday’s attacks on Ahmadiyya mosques were on Qadiani jamaat’s mosques in Lahore. All our members are safe with the blessings of Allah.

We condemn these attacks and this cowardly act which has taken lives of a hundred innocent people. All members are requested to keep on praying for us.

Yours truly,
Amir Aziz
General Secretary
AAIIL

37 Responses to “Qadiani Jamaat mosques attacked in Lahore, many killed. Explosions heard by worshippers in our Darus Salaam.”

  1. In’na LiL’Lahay Wa In’na ELay Hay Rajay’oon

    A great article on Qadiani Jamaat mosques attack in Lahore.

    Terrorism, Shameless Religious Bigotry and Pakistani Mindset


  2. Sectarian Attacks on Lahore Mosques Kill More Than 80 [TIME magazine] – excerpts:

    – A long-persecuted minority Muslim sect suffered its worst assault ever on Friday, when armed militants attacked two mosques in the heart of Lahore, Pakistan’s second largest city and cultural capital. More than 80 members of the city’s Ahmedi community were killed and scores injured, according to a top police official, in a dramatic four-hour siege in which militants deployed a bomb, grenades and heavy gunfire.

    – The siege took place as members of the Ahmedi community were gathered for Friday prayers at mosques in the Garhi Shahu and Model Town neighborhoods, several kilometers apart in Lahore. Within minutes of each other, gunmen entered the mosques, hurling grenades at the worshippers. Once inside, the attackers took hostages and, in the case of the Garhi Shahu assault, held off police efforts to end the siege for several hours. The Punjab police now claim they have established control and arrested suspects.

    – In a text message sent to several journalists, the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attacks. “This is a final warning to the [Ahmedi community] to leave Pakistan or prepare for death at the hands of the Prophet Muhammad’s devotees,” said the chilling message. It was signed by the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, the official name of the Pakistani Taliban, and the “Punjab wing” of al-Qaeda, a hitherto unknown group.

    – …this most recent attack was the first on such a scale against the Ahmedi community, which has been subject to state excommunication since the 1970s and has suffered previous attacks from hardline Sunni extremists.

    – The attacks were the most brutal of many launched against minority groups in Punjab province. In 2009, 11 members of Pakistan’s Ahmedi community were killed, mostly in Punjab province. In April, the Sipah-e-Sahaba, an outlawed sectarian outfit linked to the Taliban and al-Qaeda, was blamed for the killing of three Ahmedis in the central Punjabi city of Faisalabad.

    – Earlier this year, Punjab’s law minister was seen openly campaigning alongside leaders of the Sipah-e-Sahaba during a special election in the town of Jhang. Flouting restrictions placed on the outlawed group, which has a record of killing Shi’ites across Pakistan and supplying terror groups with madrasah recruits, its members paraded through Jhang wielding weapons and chanting blood-curdling anti-Shi’ite slogans. The Punjab police did not stop the group, but instead escorted it through the town.

    – Members of Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League-N admit to courting the group’s votes, but maintain that the party has no tolerance for terrorists. “Taseer and others are just trying to politicize the issue,” says Ahsan Iqbal, a spokesman for Sharif’s party. “We condemn this attack in the strongest words — it is sheer madness. No religion permits such attacks on any place of worship…

    ———–

    Even though above excerpts are lengthy, but not only they highlight the events but also the associated factors i.e. evil Mullah ideology, persecution of minority point of view, ongoing threats to lives and property, actual violence, ineptness of the government, collusion of political parties, moral dearth in the society and so on.

    With the above carnage and its background the following recent posts on this site are pertinent, take a look:

    “Quran gives no immunity, stresses justice for all” [Pak tribune] 

    Deobandi conference on militancy

    Dilemma of a Modern Muslim Mind

    1937: Opponents wreck Lahore Ahmadiyya meeting about Holy Prophet

    Significance of the ‘Kalima’

    Harbingers of winds of change…

    Dr. Aafia Siddiqi

    Evil spell…

    1974 Pakistan National Assembly hearings

    Article – 260 – (3) of Constitution of Pakistan – an analysis

    And many more…


  3. May 28th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
    From Abid Nazir:

    May Allah spread peace in Pakistan and across the world. I pray for all Qadianis and Lahoris that May Allah give them GUIDANCE with true Islam that is revealed upon his last messenger, Muhammad saw. Amen!

    O’ Muslims! preach Ahmadis and Qadianis, don’t kill them. They are humans like all other Muslims. May Allah give them Guidance. Ameen!


  4. Dear brother Abid Nazir:
     
    Based on Holy Quran and Sunnah of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS, please tell us, how we members of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement can become Muslim?
    Thanks.


  5. I appreciate Abid Nazir for his peace wishes for all. Peace be on him too. Ironically by the standards of Islam in Pakistan and thanks to Constitutional amendments of 1974 and 1984, an Ahmadi or Qadiani cannot wish any one of Pakistanis “As-Salamu Alaykum,” which is nothing but a simple prayer in Arabic.

    I also appreciate Abid’s prayers for Qadianis and Lahoris for their “GUIDANCE with true Islam that is revealed upon his last messenger, Muhammad saw.”

    But, and it is a BIG BUT, I am confused with the term “true Islam.”  Can someone explain it?

    While I am waiting for someone to answer, at least I am 100% sure of what “true Islam” is not. And that is the Islam geographically confined, mentally ingrained and practiced by majority in Pakistan. Either they actively participate or by their silence, abet, encourage and fund tyranny, bigotry and human rights violations in the name of Islam. Being claimants to Islam, I am sure they must be aware of the following verse:


    4:75. What (excuse) have you (to offer) that you would not fight in the cause of Allâh and for (the rescue of) the weak and the down-trodden men and women and the children who all say, `Our Lord! take us out of this town of which the people are tyrants, and grant us a defender who comes from You and a helper by Your Own grace.’

    I happened to watch a number of panel discussions about the above massacre on various Pakistani TV channels and barring a few panelists, every Mullah dodged the direct questions about their bigoted behavior that has directly or indirectly led to the carnage above. Their attitude is that of hypocrites who give lip service for a peaceful and tolerant Islam, but their every thought and action contravenes the above verse.

    Abid, I am sure that there must be “true Islam” found somewhere in the world, but definitely not in the majority of citizens of Pakistan.

    As-Salamu Alaykum, oops! I meant Peace be on you all.


  6. @Abid Nazir

    Thank you pointing out that we Ahmadis are humans.  I also pray that may Allah give us the guidance to live our lives as lived by the last Prophet, Muhamamd (SAWS).  However, don’t you think that as implied by your post, since the Muslims do not consider Ahmadis as humans, they also need the same guidance? In fact given the general state of the Muslims world this guidance is desperately needed by ALL MUSLIMS.  To be accurate though the guidance is there, the Muslims just need to heed it.


  7. In pakistan religious scholars are allowed to preach hatred openly in mosques, and on tv channels. What else can one expect in pakistan, expect madness?


  8. May 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
    From zaburgoo:

    Mirza was the biggest kafir ever seen in the world he was not the Messiah but the gay porn star. Messiah word is Only used for THE JESUS (A.S) The son of Virgin Merry. But Mirza was the son of runndi (the sazish of more then 110 people) . thx alot for giving me honour for the comments.


  9. @Zaburgoo:
    At least no one can say that moderator of this blog does not permit opponents of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib to post.


  10. Jinnah Considered Ahmadis Muslims
     
    A blog article is written with above title on Pak Tea House.
    Author writes:
    “THE PARLIAMENT MUST REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT.  THE PARLIAMENT MUST REPEAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT NOW!  THE PARLIAMENT MUST STOP MAKING US THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD FOR THE SAKE OF FEW CROOKS, CRANKS AND MADMEN WHO HAVE NEVER LIFTED A FINGER FOR PAKISTAN’S PROGRESS.  THE PARLIAMENT MUST STOP PERSECUTING PAKISTAN’S LOYAL SONS AND DAUGHTERS.”
     
    http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/jinnah-considered-ahmadis-muslims/#comment-32931
     


  11. I found following thought provoking post written by Qadiani Jamaat friend on Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s critics forum:
     
    When Nizam-a-Jammat calls us for some purpose then its his responsibility to protect us.
     It was very sad full incidence.May God Bless all of them.
    lets analyze it
    1) why so many Ahmadis were present in the mosque (more than a normal routine)
    2) what was the specific reason of gathering of large number of people on both places
    3) Every body know that in going situation of country the Government of Pakistan informed that the threat is present so take precautionary measure.
    now the question arises
    1)  Is the life of Ahmadis are important or the celebration of Khalifat  is important (instead of 27 may, it was designed to be held at 28th may in Pakistan)
    2)  If Khalifit celebrations are more important then why not Nizam-a-Jammat take precautionary measures.
    3)  Why not Nizam-a-Jammat arrange extra security for the protection of Ahmadis.
    4)  We all know that in our every mosque of Pakistan the armed Ahmadi Khudam are always present especially during such a events.then where those Khudam goes during this sad full incident or from few weeks the Khudam was unarmed during duties, who make Khudam Unarmed and why.
    5)  If Governmental organization did not take proper security measures then why not Nizam-a-Jammat took proper measures for handling any unwanted problem.etc

    All this arguments are showing that security loops and defects were present on both sides; at the end of Governmental law enforcement departmental arrangement and as well as at the end of Nizam-a-jammat`s arrangements.

    Government of Pakistan is trying his best to giving the answers of negligence of their departments but is Nizam-a-Jammat ever think about to providing the answer of their negligence to all of us and especially to those who lost their loved ones in this sad full incidence.  what Nizam-a-Jammat want to hide from media and why not media were allowed to enter in the mosques for covering the internal situation. why Nizam-a-Jammat is just trying to put all the blame on Government and Molvies etc.


  12. A very interesting post by Zaburgoo. Lets dissect it.

    – Zaburgoo
    – a self descriptive name i.e.
    Zabur = Talmud.
    Goo = S _ _ T that he is full of.

    – Mirza was the biggest kafir ever seen in the world
    – Obviously Zaburgoo is living among kafirs, left and right, and that he is fully qualified to spot the biggest one. Isn’t he most likely a denizen of Kafristan?


    – he was not the Messiah
    , – Of course, Zaburgoo seems to have met the original Messiah that he can tell just by looking at Mirza that he is not the real one. In the movie Water World, due to global warming the whole world is underwater, and there is a mysterious child about whom is a legend that she is the only one who has seen dry land. Zaburgoo reminds me of such a character that probably has seen the actual Messiah and is not telling the rest of us. How cruel and selfish.

    – but the gay porn star
    . – Zaburgoo probably is self aware about his own name with ancestry originating from the gay valley a.k.a. Sodom and Gomorrah. So when he mentions gay, he is casually reflective of himself and using a local lingo Franca. He actually does not mean to curse anyone but he cannot help. That’s his own language and life-style. At least he is out of the closet. And that needs lots of courage in Kafiristan. Porn star, tells us his choice of movies and entertainment that he himself indulges in, otherwise how can one identify a porn star unless one has intimate knowledge of.

    Messiah word is Only used for THE JESUS (A.S). Looks like Zaburgoo has not passed even his tenth grade else he would know that the word “Messiah” has many meanings and applications. e.g. Faiz-Ahmed Faiz in his ghazal “Dar-ee-chay

    Garhee hein kitneey saleeb-ein murray daree-chay mein

    Her aik mass-e-yah kay knoon ka rang lee-ay
    Her aik wasl khuda-wand key umang lee-ay

    How many crosses are buried in my window
    Each stained with blood of its own Messiah,
    Each aspiring to unite with its god.

    The son of Virgin Merry.- The last time I heard, these are the words and worlds of Christian Evangelists. Come on now Zaburgoo tell us who are you. Are you Talmudic or Evangelic? Zaburgoo also is telling us that how much tolerant he is towards women. Next time his mother, sister or wife gets pregnant in the sunnah of Mary and outside her wedlock, he is going to call it a miracle and not kill her.

    But Mirza was the son of runndi. Zaburgoo probably is making this comment because he seems to have first hand knowledge from belonging to similar household and can sniff out one like himself just from history pages. Only such a house hold that Zaburgoo belongs to can have the lingo franca with words gay, porn star, runndi.

    (the sazish of more then 110 people) – Tell us please the names of those 110 people, please, please….I am dying to hear.

    thx alot for giving me honour for the comments. – Actually the honour and pleasure is ours to meet people of high caliber like you who are – brave, out of the closet, liberal, tolerant of virgin births and serving the elite of Kafiristan.


  13. The confinement of Ahmadis in Pakistani society has poignant parallels to the Prison Narrative of Faiz:

    Window

    How many crosses are buried in my window
    Each stained with the blood of its own Messiah,
    Each aspiring to unite with its god.

    On one of them they sacrifice the Spring cloud,
    On another they murder the moon’s radiance,
    On a third the bower of delight is rent in two,
    On a fourth is slaughtered the morning breeze.

    Each day, these godly beings of kindness and beauty
    Come, dripping with blood into my sorrowful cell,
    And each day, before my eyes
    The bodies of martyrs are raised up and healed.


  14. Kafir Factory
     
    Urdu column by Muhammad Hanif (author of  ‘A case of Exploding Magos’)
    BBC Urdu-Online
    May 25, 2010.
     
    A good analysis of Pakistan’s religious atmosphere. I wish I could translate it into English.
    It says, “anyone who calls himself a Muslim [in Pakistan], there are two people to call him Kafir”.
     
    This article has one factual error: It gives impression as if Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement is some offshoot of Qadiani Jamaat.
     
    I’m wondering if author picked my phrase ‘Kafir-Factory’ aka Pakistan as a title of his write-up from my articles over the years on different blogs/ forums. Anyway, I’m glad if he did.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/05/100529_hanif_colmn.shtml
     
     


  15. To those who say:
     
    Pakistan government, its nation’s political leaders, and its elected parliamentarians’had the authority to declare Kalima-Shahada reciters as Kaffir in 1974.

    I would reply:
     
    I guess you support Swiss government for banning minarets in mosques.
    I guess you support Belgium government for banning veil/niqab/burqa.
    I guess you support Franch government for banning Hijab
     
    And I guess you will support Danish government for banning Holy Quran or at least some of its verses and chapters!


  16. HMGA poetry and its translation copied from Pak Tea House blog.
    Translator Mr. Khullat.
     
    1) Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian says:
     
    “Shukr lillah mil gaya hum ko wo laal-e bey-badal
    Kya huwa gar qaum ka dil sang-e khaara ho gaya”
     
    Translation:
     
    ‘Thank God that I have found that priceless gem – God.
    So what, if the hearts of my own people have turned stone-hard towards me.
     
    2) Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian says:
     
    “Baad az khuda ba ishq-e Muhammad mukhammaram
    Gar kufr een bawad bakhuda sakht kaafiram”
     
    Translation:
     
    ‘Next to God, it is the love of Muhammad that inebriates me.
    If this is kufr, then by God I am a firm kafir.’


  17. Following the talk shows and news stories in the aftermath of this terrible incident, just some observations I would like to share:

    1 ) One news channel seemed to be “afraid” to identify the vicitms as Ahmadis / Qadianis and kept using the word “a minority.”

    2) Another news channel and associated newspaper repeatedly used the word “Qadianis” which is not official  and considered derogatory by Ahmadis, and as such inappropriate to use in formal settings.

    3) On one talk show a Punjab Govt. spokesperson was using “Qadiani” and was asked by the anchor to not do so for the reason mentioned above.  He complied.

    4) The politicians have shamelessly used this for point scoring (The on-going tussle between the Federal and the Punjab Govt.).

    5) The PML-N and the Mullahs have been trying to play down the Ahmadi angle, claiming this is just another terrorist attack.  The Mullahs, predictably, are blaming America/Zonists!  Which is ironic as Qadianis are supposed to be a Zionoist conspiracy any way!

    6) The independent panelists, columnists etc. have all blasted the un-hindered and institutionalised intolerance against Ahmadis as a root cause of the event. 


  18. aisay attacks honay chaheye, we r very happy


  19. Khan writes: “aisay attacks honay chaheye, we r very happy” meaning “such attacks are necessitated” for which “we r very happy.”

    At least in his mind, Khan is representing a group of people. Who are those people?

    In context of current religious dynamics, he is also giving an impression that his Islam is under attack. But where and how?

    He is also condoning an actual physical attack (not an intellectual debate). Where in the world is killing of unarmed men, women and children in a mosque is a basis for rejoicing?

    He obviously is gloating aggression without remorse. What kind of a mindset is it?

    He seems to be angry at something and projecting his anger. What is that something?

    The above is not a story of one individual, but anyone who is in touch with current issues will not take long to recognize such a pervasive mind set in a significant segment of Pakistani society. In terms of psychopathology, these traits overlap the following disorders:

    Antisocial Personality
    : Cannot conform to law, Obligations ignored, Reckless disregard for safety, Remorseless, Underhanded (deceitful), Planning insufficient (impulsive), Temper (irritable and aggressive)

    Paranoid Personality
    : Spousal infidelity suspected, Unforgiving (bears grudges), Suspicious, Perceives attacks (and reacts quickly), Enemy or friend? (suspects associates and friends), Confiding in others is feared, Threats perceived in benign events.

    Quran provides anti-venom to protect oneself when living amongst such a psychopathic environment:

    114:1. Say, `I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind,

    114:2. `The Sovereign, the Controller of all affairs of mankind,

    114:3. `The God of mankind,

    114:4. `(that He may protect me) from the evil (of the whisperings) of the whisperer, the sneaking one.

    114:5. `Who whispers evil suggestions into the hearts of mankind,

    114:6. `From among the jinn (- fiery natured, houghty) and the (ordinary) people.’

    I might sound conceited in my comments, but remember, it is the voice of a minority against injustices:

    4:148. Allâh does not like the public utterance of the hurtful speech, except (it is by) one who has been done injustice to. And Allâh is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

    I seek mercy for myself.


  20. Tolerance in Islam – The Decree by [Mughal Emperor] Aurangzeb

    Islamic Review,  Vol XIII, Nos. 4 & 5, pg 124-125, April-May, 1925, The Mosque, Woking England.

    —-

    Be it known unto all men that we, because of our natural mercy and favour for the welfare of our people, do hereby declare and decree that all our beloved subjects – be they high or low- shall live in peace and harmony one with another; and in accordance with the Islamic Sheria’t (Law) we hereby command that the Temples and the places of idol-worship of the Hindus be maintained and protected. And whereas it hath recently been brought to our notice that certain people intend to entreat despitefully and cruelly our Hindu subjects at Benares and debar the Brahmans from the ancient lawful rites of their worship; and whereas it hath also been brought to our notice that these rumours have caused much pain and consternation to them; now, therefore, we decree and let it be known throughout out our Empire, that from the date of the issue of this decree, no Brahman be molested in his prayers nor Hindu Temples be meddled with. Let our Hindu subjects dwell in peace and pray for our prosperity.

    MUHAMMAD AURANGZEB THE EMPOROR, GAZI [The Signature]

    MUHAMMAD AURANGZEB s/o SAHIBQIRAN SANNI [The Seal]


  21. June 4th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    From Hammad ali:

    Mirza was only a gay and thats all
    He was gretest kafir and Gustakh-e-Rasool(S.A.W.W)
    And attact on ahmadis in lahore was pleasent and i heartly appreciat Tabliban and i hope these attacks will not stop.(Insha ALLAH)

    Khatam-e-Nabuwat Zinda bad
    Mirza Qadyani Murda bad


  22. Ikram,
    Your responses above are priceless.
    These individuals show themselves to be morally and intellectually bankrupt. No wonder the only option left for them is physical violence.
    Tariq


  23. June 5th, 2010 at 7:03 am
    From Farid Ahmad Malik:

    @ Rashid
    This is a solely a reply to your or the  analysis you found brother.

    1)The Ahmadis were not more than normal routine,the mosque at model town contains more than 1500 people at norm,here the people were still less than that due to the attacks being 15 minutes earlier than the Namaz.

    2)As I told you the gathering was not large,it was routine.

    3)Now , you are thinking that youm-khilafat was celebrated on 28th instead of 27th.That is not true,youm-e-khilafat was held on Sunday,23rd plus a little gathering on 27th.No specified event was programmed to be held on 28th.
    Secondly , the nizam-a- jammat took alot of measures for security.I will particularly explain you the lapse.

    There was extra-security ,only the police on duty ran away after the first shot was taken by the terrorist.Then again, there is usually an armed policeman on the roof of the mosque.Suspiciously there wasn’t any.

    Now , you say why the Khuddam were unarmed for a few weeks.That is true,since I myself am a Khuddam on duty,but unarmed.

    Anyway,this happened due to a particular reason.A month back, the SHO thaana police model and the SP showed up at the mosque.They strongly said that no Khuddam will carry arms.If they do so I will take charge.Furthermore He assured that the security will be his duty.However he was very rude.When the attack materialised he was standing at the farther end of the ground.
    After this meeting with the SHO and the SP , the khuddam were ordered not to carry arms.
    I dont know if these question were put forward by you or the Ahmadi you are referring to,I was present there,I am involved with the Jamaat and this is the true story.
    Also please forward me the link where you read this.
    Thank you.


  24. Hammad, you are praising the very kind (the ‘Taliban’), that are mercilessly killing innocent lives all over Pakistan who aren’t Ahmadis! Do you ever use your brain?


  25. @Farid Ahmad Malik

    Post in re was originally posted on HMGA crtitics forum: ahmedi dot org
    See thread: Attack on Ahmadi Mosques in Lahore, Pakistan
    Poster: Ahmadi
    Posts: 54
    05/29/10  05:59:17
    Post heading: When Nizam-a-Jammat calls us for some purpose then its his responsibility to protect us.


  26. To Hammad and Khan above, suffice is to say what Maulana Jalal-ud-din Rumi writes about you and your ilk:
     
    “We have taken the marrow from the Qur-án, And have cast the bones before the dogs”


  27. Tolerance in Islam – Charter to Christians by Muhammad PBUH

    “This is the document which Muhammad son of Abdullah, God’s Prophet, Warner and Bearer of glad tidings, has caused to be written, so that there should remain no excuse for those coming after. I have caused this document to be written for the Christians of the East and the West, for those who live near, and for those of the distant lands, for the Christians living at present and for those who will come after, for those Christians who are known to us and for those as well whom we do not know. Any Muslim violating and abusing what is therein ordered would be regarded as a violator of God’s testament and would be the breaker of his promise and would make himself deserving of God’s curse, be he a king or a subject.”

    “I promise that any monk or way-farer, etc., who will seek my help on the mountains, in forests, deserts or habitations, in places of worship, I will repel his enemies with all my friends and helpers, with all my relatives and with all those who profess to follow me and will defend him, because they are on my covenant. And I will defend the covenanted against the persecution, inequity and embarrassment by their enemies in lieu of the poll-tax (Jizya) they have promised to pay.

    “If they will prefer themselves to defend their properties and persons, they will be allowed to do so and will not be put to any inconvenience on that account. No bishop will be expelled from his bishopric, no monk from his monastery, and no priest from his place of worship and no pilgrim will be detained in his pilgrimage. None of their churches and other places of worship will be desolated or destroyed or demolished. No material of their churches will be used for building mosques or houses for the Muslims. Any Muslim so doing should be regarded as recalcitrant to God and His Prophet. Monks and bishops will be subjected to no tax (jizya) or indemnity, whether they live in forests or in the rivers, are in the East or West,. North or South. I give them my word of honour. They are on my promise and covenant and will enjoy perfect immunity from all sorts of inconveniences. Those who retire to the mountains and dedicated places, the produce of their cultivated lands will not be subjected to tax or tithe and in times of scarcity of food they will not be compelled to contribute anything in the form of grain. No military service will be taken from them, nor will they be required to pay jizya. Not more than 12 dirhams per annum will be taken from their merchants, landholders and from the wealthy among them. None should be harassed and tryannised for the payment of taxes. In religious controversies and disputations, they should be tathed to with civility and lenience. Let mercy overwhelm them wherever they may be and they should be protected from all troubles and injuries. He who broke God’s covenant and adopted a defiant attitude, will be regarded as His enemy and the violator of His testament. Every help shall be given them in the repair of their churches. They shall be absolved from wearing arms. They shall be protected by the Muslims. Let this document be not disobeyed till the Judgment Day.”

    (excerpted pages 143-146 from: Jihad in Islam, by M.Y.K., The Muslim Revival, Vol V, No. 2, June 1936, Lahore, India)
     
    Note: The above was previously posted in another thread.


  28. June 5th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
    From Zahid Aziz:

    I once did some research into a charter like this, which was also mentioned in The Muslim Revival. This led me to discover a book written in the 18th century by an Irish traveller to the Middle East, A Description of the East and Some Other Countries by Richard Pococke, published in 1743. In this book Pococke gives the translation of “The Patent of Mahomet which he granted to the monks of Mount Sinai and to Christians in general”.

    See this link to display a pdf file of those pages from his book. They are in 18th century English, but you can probably understand the text if you remember that the letter which looks like an “f”, as in “Chriftians”, or “faying”, was the way of printing “s” in those days.

    Please read from the bottom part of the first page, under Chapter XIV.


  29. Reply from ‘Ahmade’ for Farid Ahmad Malik (copied from ahmedi dot org)

    Thanks Dear Farid Ahmad Malik sahib
    Actually we were discussing the recent Friday sermon. But as guest you are well some with your comments on my previous post.
    As you guide us that the Khudam was unarmed so in relation to this I will say something.
    It sound lots of things and which can be wrong but might be at the moment we seems them as right.
    1)      Kindly first of all see the practical difference of Khudam and Ansar. Khudam are the working power of Nizam-a-Jammat and the Ansar are the real policy makers and ruling part of the Nizam-a-Jammat.
    2)      Nizam-a-Jammat have some core responsibilities by which we all Ahmadis do work for Nizam-a-Jammat and remain be sticking with Nizam-a-Jammat. First and prime responsibility is CONFIDENCE.
    3)      The confidence that we are safe and secure under the guidance and supervision of Nizam-a-Jammat in our journey towards Almighty ALLAH and feel free to act upon the real principles of Islam.
    4)      Now with the reference of Lahore attack we see that Nizam-a-Jammat is in severe irresponsibility.
    5)      If local police officer ask Khudam that get unarmed then
    a.       Is Khudam took this matter to local head of Nizam-a-Jammat
    b.      Is local head of Nizam-a-Jammat brought this matter in the notice of local head of Nizam-a-Jammat of Rabwah
    c.       Is Rabwah replies to local head of Nizam-a-Jammat of Lahore with their deep concern
    d.      The head of Nizam-a-Jammat of Lahore and Rabwah get consultancy with Head of Jammat and his team in London for the sack of life of Ahmadis residing in Lahore etc
    6)      All above procedure should be happen or not, beside it we are seeing that when attack happened then Khudam was still unarmed. Why?
    7)      Actually when Nizam-a-Jammat knows that their security personals (Khudam) are unarmed and security situation is not satisfactory then why they don’t ask Ahmadis that kindly offer their Jumma prayer in their local area Prayer centre? As there is lots of other Nimaz centres are well established in Lahore where Jumma prayers are offered.
          Here the question arises that why Nizam-a-Jammat did not told Ahmadis by the prevailing serious security threats. And why this serious dishonesty happened at the end of Nizam-a-Jammat.
    9)       WHO ARE THE REAL POLICY MAKERS OF JAMMAT? Khudam or Ansar or Rabwah or London
    10)  The care of Ahmadis is the responsibility of local Jammat with the help of superior office bearers. Who show negligence?
    11)   As according to the administration and laws of country Ahmadis are not allowed to recite the Kalima and not allowed to do Tabligh and not allowed to have their own Courts and not allowed to run lots of other activities which are running by the Nizam-a-Jammat on permanent and continuous basis.
    12)  If Nizam-a-Jammat is doing all those things for which the law of country do not give permission then why not Nizam-a-Jammat took most important step that with the collaboration of senior office bearers established proper security measures for the sack of Ahmadis reside in Lahore.
    13)  As a member of Ahmadiya community you know that Amoor-a-Amma, Kar-a-Khas and Hifiaz-a-Khas are very well established departments of Nizam-a-Jammat and they act as law enforcement and spying bodies of Nizam-a-Jammat. But the question is that theses department are established for which and why they are serving only to grab & grip the Ahmadis. Why not they work for security of common Ahmadis.
    14)  In Rabwah the Jammat do contract with some private security company and on the name of that company they issue armed licence and give weapons to local Ahmadis for making the security of specific areas of Rabwah where are the offices and residences of senior office bearers of Nizam-a-Jammat. Kindly tell me that the lives of Ahmadis are equally important or the life of Ahmadis at Rabwah is more precious than Lahore.
    15)  If administration of country asks Nizam-a-Jammat of Rabwah that immediately become unarmed and we will do take care of you then honestly tell me will Rabwah accept it?
    16)  If administration of London ask Mirza Masroor sahib that don’t get worried we will do take care of your and your team life so kindly remove your 15 bodyguards then honestly tell me that will Mirza Masroor sahib and his team will accept it? then tell me why Nizam-a-Jammat Lahore accept it?

    17)  So my brother Malik sahib accept it whole heartedly that there is difference between the importance of common Ahmadi and the importance of office bearers  especially on the basis of grouping. We are just to submitting the CHANDA and nothing else is our importance in the eyes of policymakers of today’s Nizam-a-Jammat.
     
    its came in Hadise that ”The thing which you like, do also like for your brother”
     
    Hope your will investigate it and some day will get the truth. May GOD Bless you and Help you out especially in the way that why Nizam-a-Jammat is trying to creating the hate against every living thing which is not in as according to their way of living. Your further comments are welcomed.


  30. Replay for dear Farid Ahmad Malik Sahib about ht e Negligence of Nizam-a-Jammat
    Thanks Dear Farid Ahmad Malik sahib
    Actually we were discussing the recent Friday sermon. But as guest you are well some with your comments on my previous post.
    As you guide us that the Khudam was unarmed so in relation to this I will say something.
    It sound lots of things and which can be wrong but might be at the moment we seems them as right.
    1) Kindly first of all see the practical difference of Khudam and Ansar. Khudam are the working power of Nizam-a-Jammat and the Ansar are the real policy makers and ruling part of the Nizam-a-Jammat.
    2) Nizam-a-Jammat have some core responsibilities by which we all Ahmadis do work for Nizam-a-Jammat and remain be sticking with Nizam-a-Jammat. First and prime responsibility is CONFIDENCE.
    3) The confidence that we are safe and secure under the guidance and supervision of Nizam-a-Jammat in our journey towards Almighty ALLAH and feel free to act upon the real principles of Islam.
    4) Now with the reference of Lahore attack we see that Nizam-a-Jammat is in severe irresponsibility.
    5) If local police officer ask Khudam that get unarmed then
    a. Is Khudam took this matter to local head of Nizam-a-Jammat
    b. Is local head of Nizam-a-Jammat brought this matter in the notice of local head of Nizam-a-Jammat of Rabwah
    c. Is Rabwah replies to local head of Nizam-a-Jammat of Lahore with their deep concern
    d. The head of Nizam-a-Jammat of Lahore and Rabwah get consultancy with Head of Jammat and his team in London for the sack of life of Ahmadis residing in Lahore etc
    6) All above procedure should be happen or not, beside it we are seeing that when attack happened then Khudam was still unarmed. Why?
    7) Actually when Nizam-a-Jammat knows that their security personals (Khudam) are unarmed and security situation is not satisfactory then why they don’t ask Ahmadis that kindly offer their Jumma prayer in their local area Prayer centre? As there is lots of other Nimaz centres are well established in Lahore where Jumma prayers are offered.
    Here the question arises that why Nizam-a-Jammat did not told Ahmadis by the prevailing serious security threats. And why this serious dishonesty happened at the end of Nizam-a-Jammat.
    9) WHO ARE THE REAL POLICY MAKERS OF JAMMAT? Khudam or Ansar or Rabwah or London
    10) The care of Ahmadis is the responsibility of local Jammat with the help of superior office bearers. Who show negligence?
    11) As according to the administration and laws of country Ahmadis are not allowed to recite the Kalima and not allowed to do Tabligh and not allowed to have their own Courts and not allowed to run lots of other activities which are running by the Nizam-a-Jammat on permanent and continuous basis.
    12) If Nizam-a-Jammat is doing all those things for which the law of country do not give permission then why not Nizam-a-Jammat took most important step that with the collaboration of senior office bearers established proper security measures for the sack of Ahmadis reside in Lahore.
    13) As a member of Ahmadiya community you know that Amoor-a-Amma, Kar-a-Khas and Hifiaz-a-Khas are very well established departments of Nizam-a-Jammat and they act as law enforcement and spying bodies of Nizam-a-Jammat. But the question is that theses department are established for which and why they are serving only to grab & grip the Ahmadis. Why not they work for security of common Ahmadis.
    14) In Rabwah the Jammat do contract with some private security company and on the name of that company they issue armed licence and give weapons to local Ahmadis for making the security of specific areas of Rabwah where are the offices and residences of senior office bearers of Nizam-a-Jammat. Kindly tell me that the lives of Ahmadis are equally important or the life of Ahmadis at Rabwah is more precious than Lahore.
    15) If administration of country asks Nizam-a-Jammat of Rabwah that immediately become unarmed and we will do take care of you then honestly tell me will Rabwah accept it?
    16) If administration of London ask Mirza Masroor sahib that don’t get worried we will do take care of your and your team life so kindly remove your 15 bodyguards then honestly tell me that will Mirza Masroor sahib and his team will accept it? then tell me why Nizam-a-Jammat Lahore accept it?

    17) So my brother Malik sahib accept it whole heartedly that there is difference between the importance of common Ahmadi and the importance of office bearers  especially on the basis of grouping. We are just to submitting the CHANDA and nothing else is our importance in the eyes of policymakers of today’s Nizam-a-Jammat.
     
    its came in Hadise that ”The thing which you like, do also like for your brother”

    Hope your will investigate it and some day will get the truth. May GOD Bless you and Help you out especially in the way that why Nizam-a-Jammat is trying to creating the hate against every living thing which is not in as according to their way of living. Your further comments are welcomed.


  31. To Dear Farid Ahmad Malik
    The TV presenter of the program ‘Point Blank’ (http://www.pkaffairs.com/playshow.aspx?pageId=9039) Mr. Mubashir Luqman asked the Jamat official representative Mr. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad about the stepping up the security outside the Mosques in Lahore. Especially, when there was a credible serious security threats present before the incident. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad couldn’t respond properly apart from saying that we are a peace full people and some security was there and we are going to step up the security from now on.
    He never mentioned about any police action or request to unarm the khudam in those two mosques. If there was such complain about the police, the ‘Point Blank ‘ program provided the perfect opportunity for the Jamat official to log that complain in front of a Pakistani nation. He never mentioned any such incident; hence the story about unarming the khudam seems to be untrue.
    I would like to know; who is responsible of spreading these rumors about police unarmed the Jamat prior to the horrific incident? I hope its not you?


  32. June 7th, 2010 at 9:22 am
    From Farid Ahmad Malik:

    @Miyyan
    The khuddam were unarmed.I can testify that they were unarmed a month before.Before that there were atleast 10-15 armed khuddam.
    I’ve been praying there forever.I am not saying hearsay stuff.I can testify this so I really don’t know why
    @ Ahmadi and Rashid
    Yes,the ansar are the policy makers and the khuddam are the working power.Secondly “Ahmadi” are you an ahmadi and if yes,from where?What is your halka and majlis?
    The local police did not ask khuddam to unarm.They asked the Ameer Jamaat lahore that no khuddam will carry arms.Hence it was ordered to the Khuddam that none of them will carry arms BY the Ameer himself,but on the orders of the police.The SP said I will myself come to see if anyone carries arms and I will take charge against anyone who does.
    The establishment knew about this but were assured by the police that they will provide adequate security.
    Then,people who come there are devotees of Islam,that is what Ahmadiyyat is about.
    You arise from Ahmedi.org brother,which is very bogus.
    If the ahmadis, had a problem with the security,they can file a case on the jamaat.But ahmadi’s like me dont have any.We believe in Allah as the saviour,which you can see as the reaction of the jamaat after incident.
    The real policy makers in Lahore is the Ameer-jamaat lahore,who takes directions from the markaz(rabwah).
    Okay,as I read your full comment,I realised you are not an Ahmadi,or you would not have argued on the workings of the jamaat.
    And you have no knowledge about Rabwah at all and the security and the way of life there so I would kindly bow out of here having cleared your suspicions but for no such reason.


  33. June 7th, 2010 at 10:01 am
    From Zahid Aziz:

    The subject being discussed in the comments above is beyond the scope and purpose of this blog. I politely request that no further comments be submitted on these issues about who did or did not take which security measure, and matters of internal administration of the Qadiani Jamaat of the Ahmadiyya Movement. Thank you.


  34. Dear Farid Ahmadi Malik
    you were asking about me, my halqa etc.
    thanks.
    i am always with you, as i am your ”ZAMEER”.
    so
    APNAY MAN MAIN DOOB KAY PA GA SURAG-A-ZINDGI
    MERA NAHI BANTA TO NA BUN APNA TU BAN
     
     
     


  35. August 27th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
    From Muhammad Faizan:

    yar jany do kuch khuda ka khofe karo sab k sab kafir ho gye ho.ye baat soch lo jo banda b ye manny se inkar karta ha k Huzrat MUHAMMAD (S.W.A) ALLAH PAK k akhri nabi nhe wo kafir ha or us ki sazza dozakh ha bas so agr kisi ko muj se mabhsa karna ho tu wo mujy Muhammad_faizan_saleem@yahoo.com par mil sakta ha main waha aap ko pory saboot k sath sab kuch btao ga k ahmdia or qadiyani kafir hain


  36. The gist of what Faizan wrote is that Muhammad PBUH is the “last” of the prophets and any denier of this is a non-Muslim. Like any good Muslim, Faizan volunteers to discuss and correct any misconceptions by giving out his email address.

    I wonder if Faizan is willing to extend the definition of “finality” of Prophethood of Muhammad PBUH to state that “no prophet, neither new nor old is to arrive after Muhammad PBUH till the end of the times” and that excludes Jesus PBUH as well?

    If he denies the above corollary, then by his own standards he too along with majority of Pakistan might be a non-Muslim. Just to repeat for the record that this site i.e. Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ishaat Islam Lahore believes in the “absolute” finality of prophet Muhammad as outlined in the above corollary and there are no ifs ands or buts about it.

    Faizan, I welcome you to absolute finality of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and Islam.


  37. August 30th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    From Muhammad Faizan:

    aslam o alikum
                       ikram sahb mujy aap sab se pahly tu ye btain k aap musman ho ya ahmadi.and agr aap muslman hain tu phir aap ko aesi batin nhe karni cahey agr aap ahmadi hain tu phir i wish k main aap se milna cahta hone.or aap se face to face baat karna cahta hone.agr aap muj se milna cahty hain tu aap apna mobile number mujy mery privet mail (muhammad_faizan_saleem@yahoo.com) par send kar dain ok main aap se milna cahta hone or kuch information b mil jay gi or boht si batin b ho jain gi i shall waiting for your answer ok
                    thanks.
                             Muhammad Faizan 
                                        Faisalabad


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